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DTC P16BF: Starter Cut Relay STRLY Circuit Malfunction

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NOTE: Before you troubleshoot, record all freeze data and any on-board snapshot, and review the general troubleshooting information (see GENERAL TROUBLESHOOTING INFORMATION ).
  1. Turn the ignition switch to ON (II).
  2. Clear the DTC with the HDS, and wait 5 seconds.
  3. Check the STARTER RELAY CONTROL RETURN in the DATA LIST with the HDS.

    Is OFF Indicated? 

    YES  -Go to step 4.

    NO  -Go to step  14.

  4. Turn the ignition switch to START (III), and hold it for 5 seconds or more.
  5. Check the STARTER RELAY CONTROL RETURN in the DATA LIST with the HDS while the ignition switch is in START (III).

    Is OFF indicated? 

    YES  -Go to step 6.

    NO  -Intermittent failure, the system is OK at this time. Check for poor connections or loose terminals at starter cut relay 1, starter cut relay 2, and the PCM.

  6. Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
  7. Remove the IG2 cut relay, and the ACC cut relay from their soket (see DASHBOARD ).
  8. Test the IG2 cut relay, and the ACC cut relay (see POWER RELAY TEST ).

    Are the relays OK? 

    YES  -Go to step 9.

    NO  -Replace the IG2 cut relay, and/or ACC cut relay, then go to step  24.

  9. Remove starter cut relay 1 (A) and starter cut relay 2 (B) from the auxiliary under-dash relay block A.
    Fig 1: Identifying Starter Cut Relay 1 And Starter Cut Relay 2
    G08057100Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.
  10. Test starter cut relay 1 and starter cut relay 2 (see POWER RELAY TEST ).

    Are the relays OK? 

    YES  -Go to step 11.

    NO  -Replace starter cut relay 1 and/or starter cut relay 2, then go to step  24.

  11. Jump the SCS line with the HDS.
  12. Disconnect PCM connector A (49P).
  13. Check for continuity between PCM connector terminal A3 and body ground.
    Fig 2: Checking Continuity Between PCM Connector Terminal A3 And Body Ground
    G08057101Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.

    Is there continuity? 

    YES  -Repair a short in the wire between the PCM (A3) and starter cut relay 1, starter cut relay 2, or the IG2 cut relay, then go to step  24.

    NO  -Go to step  30.

  14. Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
  15. Remove the IG2 cut relay, and the ACC cut relay from their soket (see DASHBOARD ).
  16. Test the IG2 cut relay, and the ACC cut relay (see POWER RELAY TEST ).

    Are the relays OK? 

    YES  -Go to step 17.

    NO  -Replace the IG2 cut relay, and/or ACC cut relay, then go to step  30.

  17. Remove starter cut relay 1 (A) and starter cut relay 2 (B) from the under-dash relay block A.
    Fig 3: Identifying Starter Cut Relay 1 And Starter Cut Relay 2
    G08057102Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.
  18. Test starter cut relay land starter cut relay 2 (see POWER RELAY TEST ).

    Are the relays OK? 

    YES  -Go to step 19.

    NO  -Replace starter cut relay 1 and/or starter cut relay 2, then go to step  24.

  19. Jump the SCS line with the HDS.
  20. Disconnect PCM connector A (49P).
  21. Turn the ignition switch to ON (II).
  22. Measure the voltage between PCM connector terminal A3 and body ground.
    Fig 4: Measuring Voltage Between PCM Connector Terminal A3 And Body Ground
    G08057103Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.

    Is there 1.0 V or more? 

    YES  -Repair a short to power in the wire between the PCM (A3) and starter cut relay 1 or starter cut relay 2, then go to step 23.

    NO  -Go to step  29.

  23. Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
  24. Reconnect all connectors.
  25. Turn the ignition switch to ON (II).
  26. Reset the PCM with the HDS.
  27. Do the PCM idle learn procedure (see PCM IDLE LEARN PROCEDURE ).
  28. Check for Pending or Confirmed DTCs with the HDS.

    Is DTC P16BF indicated? 

    YES  -Check for poor connections or loose terminals at starter cut relay 1, starter cut relay 2, and the PCM, then go to step  1.

    NO  -Troubleshooting is complete. If any other Pending or Confirmed DTCs are indicated, go to the indicated DTC'S TROUBLESHOOTING .

  29. Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
  30. Reconnect all connectors.
  31. Update the PCM if it does not have the latest software (see PCM UPDATE  ), or substitute a known-good PCM (see SUBSTITUTING THE PCM ).
  32. Check for Pending or Confirmed DTCs with the HDS.

    Is DTC P16BF indicated? 

    YES  -Check for poor connections or loose terminals at starter cut relay 1, starter cut relay 2, and the PCM. If the PCM was updated, substitute a known-good PCM (see SUBSTITUTING THE PCM ), then recheck. If the PCM was substituted, go to step  1.

    NO  -If the PCM was updated, troubleshooting is complete. If the PCM was substituted, replace the original PCM (see PCM REPLACEMENT  ). If any other Pending or Confirmed DTCs are indicated, go to the indicated DTC'S TROUBLESHOOTING .