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Diagnostic Test

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  1. CHECK FOR RELATED DTCS 
    1. With the scan tool, check for other transmission DTCs.

      Are there any Transmission line pressure, speed sensor, and/or loss of prime DTCs present?

      Yes 

      • Is the only related DTC present P0933-00? If yes, go to  2
      • If any of these DTCs are present, they may cause a Speed Ratio Error. Perform the test for P0944-00 first if it is present. and perform the appropriate diagnostic procedure. Refer to DIAGNOSTIC CODE INDEX .

      No 

      • Go To  2
  2. CHECK THE EVENT DATA 
    1. With the scan tool, read and record the Event Data.
      NOTE:

      Make sure to record all Event Data stored in the scan tool for future reference in this test procedure.

      Does the Event Data display information for the DTC P0729-00?

      Yes 

      • Go To  4

      No 

      • Go To  3
  3. CHECK THE TARGET GEAR 

    In the Event Data recorded earlier, does the Event Data show the DTC P1790-00, with Target gear = 6th, or with both the 2C and OD clutches applying?

    Yes 

    • Go To  4

    No 

    • Go To  6
  4. CHECK INPUT RPM 

    In the Event Data recorded earlier, does the Input RPM read zero?

    Yes 

    • Perform the diagnostic procedure for P0716-00 Input Speed Sensor Circuit Performance. Diagnose the DTC as if it is set and current. Refer to DIAGNOSTIC CODE INDEX .

    No 

    • Go To  5
  5. CHECK LINE PRESSURE READING 

    In the Event Data recorded earlier, is the line pressure reading more than 10 psi below the desired line pressure reading?

    Yes 

    NOTE:

    This transmission is equipped with a solenoid for the Torque Converter Clutch (TCC) that is a Variable Force Solenoid (VFS) with close tolerance Pressure/Inductance (PI) curve. It is necessary to update the TCC solenoid PI data in the PCM when replacing the TCC solenoid, Valve Body or Transmission assembly. This is done with the scan tool using the "Program Torque Converter Solenoid PI Curve" routine. The PI data is located on a 2-D BAR code etched on the body of the TCC solenoid. The data must be entered into the scan tool in order to upload the information to the PCM.

    When replacing the TCC solenoid or Valve Body, obtain the PI data before installing the transmission oil pan. When replacing the transmission, the PI data can be obtained from a 2-D bar code on the exterior of the new transmission. Early build transmissions will have the 2-D barcode label on the right side of the transmission case. Late build transmissions will have the label attached to a machined pad at the top of the case, near the rear of the transmission. If it is suspected that the valve body or TCC VFS has been replaced without uploading the correct PI data into the PCM, the transmission oil pan must be removed to retrieve the information from the 2-D bar code on the body of the TCC solenoid.

    • Remove the Transmission Oil pan and check the Transmission Oil filter for improper installation or plugged, if Primary oil filter is OK, check the main regulator valve in pump. If excessive debris is in the oil pan, check clutches and repair as necessary. Refer to the Service Information for proper repair procedures.
    • If the Valve Body or the TCC VFS solenoid is replaced, remove the external TCC VFS bar code label from the transmission case.
    • Perform the TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST. Refer to TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST .

    No 

    • Go To  6
  6. CHECK TRANSMISSION FOR SLIPPAGE 
    1. Erase DTCs and road test the vehicle.
    2. Check the transmission operation in reverse and all forward gears.

      During the road test, was there any obvious slippage noted in any gear, or did the transmission fail to make a 1-2 upshift?

      Yes 

      • Go To  8

      No 

      • Go To  7
  7. READ AND RECORD DTCS AND ENVIRONMENTAL DATA - ERASE DTCS AND CHECK FOR DTC TO RETURN 
    1. With the scan tool, read DTCs in all Electronic Control Units (ECUs) and record on the repair order.
    2. With the scan tool, run a vehicle Scan Report, or record the Environmental Data related to the DTCs.
    3. With the scan tool, erase all DTCs.
    4. Turn the ignition off for a minimum of 10.0 seconds.
    5. Turn the ignition on.
    6. Using the recorded Environmental Data and the When Monitored Conditions above, operate the vehicle in the conditions that set the DTC.
    7. With the scan tool, read DTCs.

    Did the DTC P0729-00 reset?

    Yes 

    • Go To  9

    No 

  8. CHECK INTERNAL TRANSMISSION 
    1. Remove the Transmission Oil Pan and Valve Body, in accordance with the Service Information, and check for the following:
      • Excessive clutch and or metal debris in the oil pan.
      • If the accumulator cover is intact and the 2C tower seal is not cut or split.
      • OD and 2C accumulator pistons for cracks or cut seals.
      • Solenoid Switch Valve and its plugs for stickiness or wear.
      • Cut or missing No. 5 check ball.
      • OD bleed orifice (on top of the main valve body) is intact.
      • Air check the OD and 2C hydraulic clutch circuits for excessive leakage. Refer to the Service information.
      NOTE:

      Both the OD and 2C hydraulic clutch circuits contain a small bleed orifice. A small amount of air leakage is considered normal. The OD hydraulic clutch circuit bleed orifice connects to the Reverse input clutch hydraulic cavity. A small amount of air leakage into the Reverse hydraulic clutch circuit is considered normal.

      Were there any problems found?

      Yes 

      NOTE:

      This transmission is equipped with a solenoid for the Torque Converter Clutch (TCC) that is a Variable Force Solenoid (VFS) with close tolerance Pressure/Inductance (PI) curve. It is necessary to update the TCC solenoid PI data in the PCM when replacing the TCC solenoid, Valve Body or Transmission assembly. This is done with the scan tool using the "Program Torque Converter Solenoid PI Curve" routine. The PI data is located on a 2-D BAR code etched on the body of the TCC solenoid. The data must be entered into the scan tool in order to upload the information to the PCM.

      When replacing the TCC solenoid or Valve Body, obtain the PI data before installing the transmission oil pan. When replacing the transmission, the PI data can be obtained from a 2-D bar code on the exterior of the new transmission. Early build transmissions will have the 2-D barcode label on the right side of the transmission case. Late build transmissions will have the label attached to a machined pad at the top of the case, near the rear of the transmission. If it is suspected that the valve body or TCC VFS has been replaced without uploading the correct PI data into the PCM, the transmission oil pan must be removed to retrieve the information from the 2-D bar code on the body of the TCC solenoid.

      • Repair as necessary. Refer to the Service Information for proper repair procedures.
        NOTE:

        If the OD or 2C clutch has failed but no obvious cause is found (such as a cut piston seal, broken seal ring, stuck regulator valve or any other items listed above) replace the Transmission Solenoid/TRS Assembly in addition to any necessary internal repairs.

      • If the Valve Body or the TCC VFS solenoid is replaced, remove the external TCC VFS bar code label from the transmission case.
      • Perform the TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST. Refer to TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST .

      No 

      • Go To  9
  9. CHECK ROAD TEST RESULTS 

    During the road test, were Reverse, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gears OK, but the transmission slipped in 4th, 5th, and 6th gears?

    Yes 

    • Go To  10

    No 

    • Go To  11
  10. CHECK THE OD SHAFT AND REVERSE CARRIER SPLINE 
    1. Remove the Transmission in accordance with the Service Information and inspect the OD shaft and its spline to the reverse carrier hub.

      Were there any problems found?

      Yes 

      NOTE:

      This transmission is equipped with a solenoid for the Torque Converter Clutch (TCC) that is a Variable Force Solenoid (VFS) with close tolerance Pressure/Inductance (PI) curve. It is necessary to update the TCC solenoid PI data in the PCM when replacing the TCC solenoid, Valve Body or Transmission assembly. This is done with the scan tool using the "Program Torque Converter Solenoid PI Curve" routine. The PI data is located on a 2-D BAR code etched on the body of the TCC solenoid. The data must be entered into the scan tool in order to upload the information to the PCM.

      When replacing the TCC solenoid or Valve Body, obtain the PI data before installing the transmission oil pan. When replacing the transmission, the PI data can be obtained from a 2-D bar code on the exterior of the new transmission. Early build transmissions will have the 2-D barcode label on the right side of the transmission case. Late build transmissions will have the label attached to a machined pad at the top of the case, near the rear of the transmission. If it is suspected that the valve body or TCC VFS has been replaced without uploading the correct PI data into the PCM, the transmission oil pan must be removed to retrieve the information from the 2-D bar code on the body of the TCC solenoid.

      • Repair as necessary. Refer to the Service Information for proper repair procedures.
      • If the Valve Body or the TCC VFS solenoid is replaced, remove the external TCC VFS bar code label from the transmission case.
      • Perform the TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST. Refer to TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST .

      No 

      NOTE:

      This transmission is equipped with a solenoid for the Torque Converter Clutch (TCC) that is a Variable Force Solenoid (VFS) with close tolerance Pressure/Inductance (PI) curve. It is necessary to update the TCC solenoid PI data in the PCM when replacing the TCC solenoid, Valve Body or Transmission assembly. This is done with the scan tool using the "Program Torque Converter Solenoid PI Curve" routine. The PI data is located on a 2-D BAR code etched on the body of the TCC solenoid. The data must be entered into the scan tool in order to upload the information to the PCM.

      When replacing the TCC solenoid or Valve Body, obtain the PI data before installing the transmission oil pan. When replacing the transmission, the PI data can be obtained from a 2-D bar code on the exterior of the new transmission. Early build transmissions will have the 2-D barcode label on the right side of the transmission case. Late build transmissions will have the label attached to a machined pad at the top of the case, near the rear of the transmission. If it is suspected that the valve body or TCC VFS has been replaced without uploading the correct PI data into the PCM, the transmission oil pan must be removed to retrieve the information from the 2-D bar code on the body of the TCC solenoid.

      • Disassemble and inspect the input clutch assembly. Check the OD and Reverse clutch seals, discs, and bleed orifice (in the OD/Reverse clutch piston) and repair as necessary in accordance with the Service Information.
        NOTE:

        If the OD clutch has failed but no obvious cause is found (such as a cut piston seal, broken seal ring, stuck regulator valve, etc.), replace the Transmission Solenoid/TRS Assembly in addition to any other necessary repairs.

      • If the Valve Body or the TCC VFS solenoid is replaced, remove the external TCC VFS bar code label from the transmission case.
      • Perform the TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST. Refer to TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST .
  11. CHECK FOR FAILED REVERSE GEARSET SPLINES 
    1. Working through the windows in the bottom of the case, check for a failed Reverse Sun or Annulus gear spline as follows:
      1. Hold the Transmission Output Shaft by holding the Transmission Manual Lever in the park position.
      2. Apply the 4C clutch using 30-40 psi shop air at the apply port in the center bulkhead.
      3. Attempt to rotate the input annulus gear and drive shell (the drum that encloses the two rearmost gearsets).
      NOTE:

      Due to the overrunning clutch, the gear and drive shell normally rotates in one direction only.

      Can the drive shell be rotated?

      Yes 

      NOTE:

      This transmission is equipped with a solenoid for the Torque Converter Clutch (TCC) that is a Variable Force Solenoid (VFS) with close tolerance Pressure/Inductance (PI) curve. It is necessary to update the TCC solenoid PI data in the PCM when replacing the TCC solenoid, Valve Body or Transmission assembly. This is done with the scan tool using the "Program Torque Converter Solenoid PI Curve" routine. The PI data is located on a 2-D BAR code etched on the body of the TCC solenoid. The data must be entered into the scan tool in order to upload the information to the PCM.

      When replacing the TCC solenoid or Valve Body, obtain the PI data before installing the transmission oil pan. When replacing the transmission, the PI data can be obtained from a 2-D bar code on the exterior of the new transmission. Early build transmissions will have the 2-D barcode label on the right side of the transmission case. Late build transmissions will have the label attached to a machined pad at the top of the case, near the rear of the transmission. If it is suspected that the valve body or TCC VFS has been replaced without uploading the correct PI data into the PCM, the transmission oil pan must be removed to retrieve the information from the 2-D bar code on the body of the TCC solenoid.

      • Repair internal transmission as necessary in accordance with the Service Information. Check the reverse annulus gear spline to the input carrier, and the reverse sun gear spline to the reaction carrier hub.
      • If the Valve Body or the TCC VFS solenoid is replaced, remove the external TCC VFS bar code label from the transmission case.
      • Perform the TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST. Refer to TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST .

      No 

      • Replace Transmission Solenoid/TRS Assembly in accordance with the Service Information. Refer to ASSEMBLY, TRANSMISSION SOLENOID AND TRS, REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION .
      • Perform the TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST. Refer to TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST .
      • If continued slippage is noted in 2nd and/or 6th gear during the verification test, remove the transmission and inspect the 2C clutch and repair as necessary in accordance with the Service Information.
        NOTE:

        This transmission is equipped with a solenoid for the Torque Converter Clutch (TCC) that is a Variable Force Solenoid (VFS) with close tolerance Pressure/Inductance (PI) curve. It is necessary to update the TCC solenoid PI data in the PCM when replacing the TCC solenoid, Valve Body or Transmission assembly. This is done with the scan tool using the "Program Torque Converter Solenoid PI Curve" routine. The PI data is located on a 2-D BAR code etched on the body of the TCC solenoid. The data must be entered into the scan tool in order to upload the information to the PCM.

        When replacing the TCC solenoid or Valve Body, obtain the PI data before installing the transmission oil pan. When replacing the transmission, the PI data can be obtained from a 2-D bar code on the exterior of the new transmission. Early build transmissions will have the 2-D barcode label on the right side of the transmission case. Late build transmissions will have the label attached to a machined pad at the top of the case, near the rear of the transmission. If it is suspected that the valve body or TCC VFS has been replaced without uploading the correct PI data into the PCM, the transmission oil pan must be removed to retrieve the information from the 2-D bar code on the body of the TCC solenoid.