DTC 83-24: No Signal From the Front Passenger's Weight Sensor (front outer side)

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NOTE:

Before doing this troubleshooting procedure, find out if the vehicle was in a collision. If so, verify that all the required components were replaced with new components, of the correct part number, and that they were properly installed ( see COMPONENT REPLACEMENT/INSPECTION AFTER DEPLOYMENT ).
Before doing this troubleshooting procedure, review SRS Precautions and Procedures (see PRECAUTIONS AND PROCEDURES ) and General Troubleshooting Information (see DTC (DIAGNOSTIC TROUBLE CODES) ).

Clear the DTCs with the HDS (see HOW TO CLEAR DTCS ).
Turn the ignition switch to ON (II), then wait for 10 seconds.
Check for DTCs with the HDS (see HOW TO RETRIEVE DTCS ).
Is DTC 83-24 indicated?

YES -Go to step 4.

NO -Intermittent failure, the system is OK at this time. Go to Troubleshooting Intermittent Failures (see TROUBLESHOOTING INTERMITTENT FAILURES ).
From the HDS Main Menu, select SRS, then Inspection. In the Inspection Menu, select SWS DTC CHECK.
Is an SWS DTC also indicated?

YES -
- DTC 24-11: Short to power in front passenger's weight sensor (front outer side) power circuit; replace the front passenger's seat wire harness, then clear the DTC.
- DTC 24-12: Short to ground in the front passenger's weight sensor (front outer side) power circuit. Go to step 5.
- DTC 24-13: Open in the front passenger's weight sensor (front outer side) output circuit. Go to step 13.
- DTC 24-14: Short to ground in the front passenger's weight sensor (front outer side) output circuit. Go to step 22.
NO -Intermittent failure, the system is OK at this time. Go to Troubleshooting Intermittent Failures (see TROUBLESHOOTING INTERMITTENT FAILURES ).
Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
Disconnect the ODS unit harness 3P connector (A) from the front passenger's weight sensor (front outer side).

Fig 1: Locating ODS Unit Harness 3P Connector (A) At The Front Passenger's Weight Sensor (Front Outer Side)
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Turn the ignition switch to ON (II), then wait for 10 seconds.
Check for DTCs with the HDS (see HOW TO RETRIEVE DTCS ).
Is DTC 24-12 indicated?

YES -Go to step 9.

NO -Faulty front passenger's weight sensor (front outer side); replace the front passenger's seat slide including all four front passenger's weight sensors (see FRONT PASSENGER'S WEIGHT SENSOR REPLACEMENT ), then clear the DTC.
Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
Disconnect the ODS unit harness 18P connector (A) from the ODS unit.

Fig 2: Locating ODS Unit Harness 18P Connector (A) At The ODS Unit
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Measure the resistance between body ground and ODS unit harness 18P connector terminal No. 5. There should be an open circuit or at least 1 MΩ.

Fig 3: Measuring Resistance Between Body Ground And ODS Unit Harness 18P Connector Terminal No. 5
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Is the resistance as specified?

YES -Go to step 12.

NO -Short to ground in the ODS unit harness; replace the ODS unit harness, then clear the DTC.
Measure the resistance between ODS unit harness 18P connector terminals No. 3 and No. 15. There should be an open circuit or at least 1 MΩ.

Fig 4: Measuring Resistance Between ODS Unit Harness 18P Connector Terminals No. 3 And No. 15
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Is the resistance as specified?

YES -Faulty ODS unit; replace the ODS unit (see ODS UNIT REPLACEMENT ), then clear the DTC.

NO -Short to another wire in the ODS unit harness; replace the ODS unit harness, then clear the DTC.
Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
Swap the connections between the front outer side front passenger's weight sensor and the rear outer side sensor.
Turn the ignition switch to ON (II), then wait for 10 seconds.
Check for DTCs with the HDS (see HOW TO RETRIEVE DTCS ).
Is DTC 24-13 indicated?

YES -Go to step 17.

NO -Faulty front passenger's weight sensor (front outer side); replace the front passenger's seat slide including all front passenger's weight sensors, (see FRONT PASSENGER'S WEIGHT SENSOR REPLACEMENT ), then clear the DTC.
Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
Disconnect the ODS unit harness 3P connector (A) from the front passenger's weight sensor (front outer side), then disconnect the ODS unit harness 3P connector (B) from the front passenger's weight sensor (rear outer side).

Fig 5: Locating ODS Unit Harness 3P Connector (A) From The Front Passenger's Weight Sensor (Front Outer Side) And ODS Unit Harness 3P Connector (B) From The Front Passenger's Weight Sensor (Rear Outer Side)
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Disconnect the ODS unit harness 18P connector (A) from the ODS unit.

Fig 6: Locating ODS Unit Harness 18P Connector (A) At The ODS Unit
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Turn the ignition switch to ON (II).
Measure the voltage between body ground and ODS unit harness 18P connector terminal No. 10. There should be less than 0.2 V.

Fig 7: Measuring Voltage Between Body Ground And ODS Unit Harness 18P Connector Terminal No. 10
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Is the voltage as specified?

YES -Faulty ODS unit; replace the ODS unit (see ODS UNIT REPLACEMENT ), then clear the DTC.

NO -Short to power in the ODS unit harness; replace the ODS unit harness, then clear the DTC.
Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
Disconnect the ODS unit harness 3P connector (A) from the front passenger's weight sensor (rear outer side).

Fig 8: Locating ODS Unit Harness 3P Connector (A) From The Front Passenger's Weight Sensor (Rear Outer Side)
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Turn the ignition switch to ON (II), then wait for 10 seconds.
Check for DTCs with the HDS (see HOW TO RETRIEVE DTCS ).
Is DTC 24-14 indicated?

YES -Go to step 26.

NO -Faulty front passenger's weight sensor (front outer side); replace the front passenger's seat slide including all four front passenger's weight sensors (see FRONT PASSENGER'S WEIGHT SENSOR REPLACEMENT ), then clear the DTC.
Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
Disconnect the ODS unit harness18P connector (A) from the ODS unit.

Fig 9: Locating ODS Unit Harness 18P Connector (A) At The ODS Unit
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Measure the resistance between body ground and ODS unit harness 18P connector terminal No. 10. There should be an open circuit or at least 1 MΩ.

Fig 10: Measuring Resistance Between Body Ground And ODS Unit Harness 18P Connector Terminal No. 10
Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.

Is the resistance as specified?

YES -Go to step 29.

NO -Short to ground in the ODS unit harness; replace the ODS unit harness, then clear the DTC.
Measure the resistance between ODS unit harness 18P connector terminals No. 10 and No. 15. There should be an open circuit or at least 1 MΩ.

Fig 11: Measuring Resistance Between ODS Unit Harness 18P Connector Terminals No. 10 And No. 15
Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.

Is the resistance as specified?

YES -Faulty ODS unit; replace the ODS unit (see ODS UNIT REPLACEMENT ), then clear the DTC.

NO -Short to another wire in the ODS unit harness; replace the ODS unit harness, then clear the DTC.