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VSA DTC 86-12, 86-13

DTC 86-12  : F-CAN Communication With PCM (Engine) Malfunction

DTC 86-13  : F-CAN Communication With PCM (A/T) Malfunction

NOTE: 

DTC Description DTC Freeze Frame
86-12 F-CAN Communication With PCM (Engine) Malfunction    
86-13 F-CAN Communication With PCM (A/T) Malfunction    

DTCs (VSA)

  1. DTC check

    - 1. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode.

    - 2. Clear the DTC with the HDS.

    - 3. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

    - 4. Test-drive the vehicle at 6 mph (10 km/h) or more.

    NOTE:  Drive the vehicle on the road, not on a lift.

    - 5. Check for DTCs with the HDS.

    DTC Description DTC Freeze Frame
    86-11 F-CAN Bus-Off Malfunction    
    86-12 F-CAN Communication With PCM (Engine) Malfunction    
    86-13 F-CAN Communication With PCM (A/T) Malfunction    

    Is DTC 86-12 or 86-13 indicated?

    YES 

    If only DTC 86-12 or 86-13 are indicated, go to step 2.

    YES 

    If DTC 86-11 is also indicated, go to DTC 86-11 - Refer to:

    VSA DTC 86-11 (2014 2015) 

    VSA DTC 86-11 (Without CAN Gateway) (2016)  or

    VSA DTC 86-11, 86-51  or

    NO 

    Intermittent failure, the system is OK at this time. Refer to intermittent failures troubleshooting - Refer to:

    How to Troubleshoot the VSA System (2014 2015 2016) or

    How to Troubleshoot the VSA System (2017 2018 2019 2020) .

    If the freeze data/on-board snapshot of this DTC is recorded, try to reproduce the failure under the same conditions with the Freeze data/on-board snapshot.

  2. Open wire check (F-CAN_L, F-CAN_H lines)

    - 1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

    - 2. Short the SCS line with the HDS.

    - 3. Disconnect the following connectors.

    VSA modulator-control unit 38P connector
    PCM connector A (51P) - Refer to:

    How to Troubleshoot the Fuel and Emissions Systems (2014-20) or

    How to Troubleshoot the Fuel and Emissions Systems (With Auto Idle Stop System) (2016-20)

    - 4. Check for continuity between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
      VSA modulator-control unit 38P connector: disconnected
      PCM connector A (51P): disconnected
    Test circuit F-CAN_L
    Test point 1 VSA modulator-control unit 38P connector No. 26 (BLK)
    Test point 2 PCM connector A (51P) No. 10 (BLK)
    Test circuit F-CAN_H
    Test point 1 VSA modulator-control unit 38P connector No. 38 (WHT)
    Test point 2 PCM connector A (51P) No. 9 (WHT)
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    Is there continuity?

    YES 

    The F-CAN_L and F-CAN_H wires are OK. Go to step 3.

    NO 

    Repair an open in the wire between the PCM and the VSA modulator-control unit.

  3. PCM check (update or substitution)

    - 1. Reconnect the following connectors.

    VSA modulator-control unit 38P connector
    PCM connector A (51P) - Refer to:

    How to Troubleshoot the Fuel and Emissions Systems (2014-20) or

    How to Troubleshoot the Fuel and Emissions Systems (With Auto Idle Stop System) (2016-20)

    - 2. Update the PCM if it does not have the latest software,

    or substitute a known-good PCM.  Refer to:

    PCM Removal and Installation (2014 2015) or

    PCM Removal and Installation (2016 2017 2018 2019 2020)

    - 3. Clear the DTC with the HDS.

    - 4. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

    - 5. Test-drive the vehicle at 6 mph (10 km/h) or more.

    NOTE:  Drive the vehicle on the road, not on a lift.

    - 6. Check for DTCs with the HDS.

    DTC Description DTC Freeze Frame
    86-12 F-CAN Communication With PCM (Engine) Malfunction    
    86-13 F-CAN Communication With PCM (A/T) Malfunction    

    Is DTC 86-12 or 86-13 indicated?

    YES 

    Go to step 4.

    NO 

    If the PCM was updated, troubleshooting is complete. If the PCM was substituted, replace the original PCM - Refer to:

    PCM Removal and Installation (2014 2015) or

    PCM Removal and Installation (2016 2017 2018 2019 2020)

  4. VSA modulator-control unit check (update)

    - 1. Update the VSA modulator-control unit if it does not have the latest software.

    - 2. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

    - 3. Test-drive the vehicle at 6 mph (10 km/h) or more.

    NOTE:  Drive the vehicle on the road, not on a lift.

    - 4. Check for DTCs with the HDS.

    DTC Description DTC Freeze Frame
         

    Is DTC 86-12 or 86-13 indicated?

    YES 

    Check for loose terminals in the VSA modulator-control unit 38P connector. If the VSA modulator-control unit was updated and the symptom/indication is still present, replace the VSA modulator-control unit .

    NO 

    Troubleshooting is complete. If any other DTCs are indicated, go to the indicated DTCs troubleshooting.