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VSA DTC 86-11, 86-51

DTC 86-11  : F-CAN Bus-Off Malfunction

DTC 86-51  : F-CAN Bus-Off Malfunction

NOTE: 

DTC Description DTC Freeze Frame
86-11 F-CAN Bus-Off Malfunction    
86-51 F-CAN Bus-Off Malfunction    

DTCs (VSA)

  1. Problem verification

    - 1. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode.

    - 2. Clear the DTC with the HDS.

    - 3. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

    - 4. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode, then wait for a few seconds or more.

    - 5. Check for DTCs with the HDS.

    DTC Description DTC Freeze Frame
    86-11 F-CAN Bus-Off Malfunction    
    86-51 F-CAN Bus-Off Malfunction    

    Is DTC 86-11 or 86-51 indicated?

    YES 

    The failure is duplicated. Go to step 2.

    NO 

    Intermittent failure, the system is OK at this time. Refer to intermittent failures troubleshooting - Refer to:

    How to Troubleshoot the VSA System (2014 2015 2016) or

    How to Troubleshoot the VSA System (2017 2018 2019 2020) .

    If the freeze data/on-board snapshot of this DTC is recorded, try to reproduce the failure under the same conditions with the Freeze data/on-board snapshot.

  2. DTC check (CAN gateway system)

    - 1. Check for CAN gateway system DTCs with the HDS.

    DTC Description DTC
       

    Is DTC indicated?

    YES 

    Go to indicated DTC's troubleshooting.

    NO 

    Go to step 3.

  3. F-CAN circuit communication check

    - 1. Select the FUNCTION TEST in the CAN gateway with the HDS, then select the F-CAN Bus Connected Unit Check.

    F-CAN Bus Connected Unit Check

    Which result is indicated?

    VSA modulator-control unit (Bus A) is Not Available

    Go to step 4.

    VSA modulator-control unit (Bus B) is Not Available

    Go to step 5.

    VSA modulator-control unit (Bus A and B) is Detected

    Go to step 6.

  4. Open wire check (F-CAN A_H, F-CAN A_L lines)

    - 1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

    - 2. Disconnect the following connectors.

    VSA modulator-control unit 38P connector
    CAN gateway 24P connector

    - 3. Check for continuity between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
      VSA modulator-control unit 38P connector: disconnected
      CAN gateway 24P connector: disconnected
    Test point 1 VSA modulator-control unit 38P connector No. 38 - Refer to:
    VSA Modulator-Control Unit Connector for Inputs and Outputs (2014 2015), or
    VSA Modulator-Control Unit Connector for Inputs and Outputs (2016), or
    VSA Modulator-Control Unit Connector for Inputs and Outputs (2017 2018 2019 2020)
    Test point 2 CAN gateway 24P connector No. 14
    Test point 1 VSA modulator-control unit 38P connector No. 26 - Refer to:
    VSA Modulator-Control Unit Connector for Inputs and Outputs (2014 2015), or
    VSA Modulator-Control Unit Connector for Inputs and Outputs (2016), or
    VSA Modulator-Control Unit Connector for Inputs and Outputs (2017 2018 2019 2020)
    Test point 2 CAN gateway 24P connector No. 15
    GHH329160Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Is there continuity?

    YES 

    The F-CAN A_H and F-CAN A_L wires are OK. Go to step 6.

    NO 

    Repair an open in the wire between the VSA modulator-control unit and the CAN gateway.

  5. Open wire check (F-CAN B_H, F-CAN B_L lines)

    - 1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

    - 2. Disconnect the following connectors.

    VSA modulator-control unit 38P connector
    CAN gateway 24P connector

    - 3. Check for continuity between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
      VSA modulator-control unit 38P connector: disconnected
      CAN gateway 24P connector: disconnected
    Test point 1 VSA modulator-control unit 38P connector No. 31 - Refer to:
    VSA Modulator-Control Unit Connector for Inputs and Outputs (2014 2015), or
    VSA Modulator-Control Unit Connector for Inputs and Outputs (2016), or
    VSA Modulator-Control Unit Connector for Inputs and Outputs (2017 2018 2019 2020)
    Test point 2 CAN gateway 24P connector No. 11
    Test point 1 VSA modulator-control unit 38P connector No. 20 - Refer to:
    VSA Modulator-Control Unit Connector for Inputs and Outputs (2014 2015), or
    VSA Modulator-Control Unit Connector for Inputs and Outputs (2016), or
    VSA Modulator-Control Unit Connector for Inputs and Outputs (2017 2018 2019 2020)
    Test point 2 CAN gateway 24P connector No. 10
    GHH329161Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Is there continuity?

    YES 

    The F-CAN B_H and F-CAN B_L wires are OK. Go to step 6.

    NO 

    Repair an open in the wire between the VSA modulator-control unit and the CAN gateway.

  6. VSA modulator-control unit check (update)

    - 1. Reconnect the following connectors.

    VSA modulator-control unit 38P connector (if disconnected)
    CAN gateway 24P connector (if disconnected)

    - 2. Update the VSA modulator-control unit if it does not have the latest software.

    - 3. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

    - 4. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode, then wait for a few seconds or more.

    - 5. Check for DTCs with the HDS.

    DTC Description DTC Freeze Frame
         

    Is DTC 86-11 or 86-51 indicated?

    YES 

    Check for loose terminals and poor connections in the VSA modulator-control unit 38P connector. If the VSA modulator-control unit was updated and the symptom/indication is still present, replace the VSA modulator-control unit .

    NO 

    Troubleshooting is complete.