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Caution / Notice / Hint

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HINT: 

  1. Malfunction Recurrence and Inspection Areas 
    1. Freeze frame data exists, but the malfunction (starting difficulty) has not reoccurred and the malfunction conditions are unknown.
      1. The engine speed recorded in the freeze frame data is 0 rpm (the engine does not crank).

        HINT: 

        One of the following problems may be present: battery depletion, excess engine friction, a starter malfunction or a crankshaft position sensor malfunction.

        • If the battery voltage is less than 6 V during cranking, there is a high probability that engine friction is abnormal.
        • If the battery voltage drops to 5 V or less when starting the engine, the battery may be malfunctioning.
        • If the battery voltage fluctuates while cranking the engine, it can be concluded that cranking is being performed. When the engine speed is 0 rpm, the crankshaft position sensor and/or an ECM may be malfunctioning.
          GTY334922Courtesy of © TOYOTA, LICENSE AGREEMENT TMS1002
      2. All engine speeds recorded in the freeze frame data are between 60 and 250 rpm (the engine cranks but there is no combustion).

        HINT: 

        If the engine speed is between 60 and 250 rpm (no initial combustion), there may be a wiring problem or a complete failure of an ignition or fuel system part.

        • Due to an engine coolant temperature sensor malfunction, the fuel injection volume is extremely high or low and the engine may not be able to be started.
          GTY686769Courtesy of © TOYOTA, LICENSE AGREEMENT TMS1002
      3. The engine speed recorded in the freeze frame data is 250 rpm or higher (the initial combustion and starter turnoff timing is too late).

        HINT: 

        If the engine speed is 250 rpm or higher (combustion occurs but the initial combustion and starter turnoff timing is too late), the fuel injection volume is often incorrect (too low or too high) and determining the cause of the malfunction is often difficult.

        • Due to an engine coolant temperature sensor malfunction, the fuel injection volume is extremely high or low and engine starting trouble may occur.
        • If Long FT #1 is incorrect, there may be a fuel supply problem due to the injectors or fuel pump being clogged, etc.
        • If the engine cranking speed is too high, compression loss may have occurred due to carbon interfering with the valve operation.
          GTY729917Courtesy of © TOYOTA, LICENSE AGREEMENT TMS1002
    2. When the malfunction (starting difficulty) can be reproduced, or malfunction conditions are known, perform the following inspections ("Problem symptoms" and "Systems to inspect")
      1. Problem symptoms
        1. The engine does not crank.

          HINT: 

          The starter is normal if a noise that indicates the starter pinion gear is extending is heard. The battery may be fully depleted or there may be excess engine friction.

        2. The engine cranking speed is abnormal.

          HINT: 

          If the engine cranking speed is too high (for example, 300 rpm or higher with no combustion), compression loss may have occurred because carbon interfered with valve operation, etc.

        3. There is no initial combustion.

          HINT: 

          If there is no initial combustion, there is probably a wiring problem or an ignition or fuel system part malfunction.

        4. The engine stalls after starter turnoff.

          HINT: 

          If the engine stalls after starter turnoff, the air fuel ratio may be incorrect or the VVT may have a problem returning.

        5. The initial combustion and starter turnoff occur late.

          HINT: 

          If the initial combustion and starter turnoff occur late, the fuel injection volume is probably incorrect (too low or too high).

          HINT: 

          Causes of fuel system malfunctions according to conditions present at the time of the malfunction.

          • When 2 to 3 minutes have elapsed after stopping the engine: Fuel pressure loss due to the pressure regulator failing to maintain the fuel pressure.
          • When 15 to 120 minutes have elapsed after stopping the engine: Problem with injector fuel seal.
          • When a long time has elapsed after stopping the engine: Pressure regulator is stuck open.
      2. Systems to inspect.
        1. Intake system
        2. Ignition system
        3. Fuel system
  2. INSPECTION FLOW 
    1. Freeze frame data exists, but the malfunction (starting difficulty) has not reoccurred and the malfunction conditions are unknown.
      Freeze Frame Data Item Result Suspected Area Procedure
      Engine Speed 0 rpm (no engine cranking at all)
      • Battery fully depleted
      • Engine assembly (excess friction)
      • Starter
      • Crankshaft position sensor
      • ECM
      4 to 9
      60 to 250 rpm (engine cranks but no initial combustion*1)
      • Fuel pump control system
      • Ignition system
      • Engine immobiliser system
      • Engine coolant temperature sensor
      • Fuel injection system
      10 to 14
      250 rpm or higher (combustion occurs but initial combustion and starter turnoff*2 occur late)
      • Engine assembly (compression loss)
      • Fuel injection system
      • Fuel pump control system
      15 to 24

      HINT: 

      • *1: First combustion after cranking begins.
      • *2: Condition when engine speed increases and starter can be turned off.
    2. When the malfunction (starting difficulty) can be reproduced, or when malfunction conditions are known.
      1. Problem symptoms
        Problem Symptom Suspected Area Suspected Component Procedure
        The engine does not crank Battery malfunction
        • Battery fully depleted
        26 to 31
        Starting system
        • Starter (includes pinion gear wear or tooth damage)
        • Starting system
        Engine assembly
        • Engine assembly (excess friction)
        • Drive plate wear or tooth damage
        Cranking speed too low Battery malfunction
        • Battery fully depleted
        32 to 34
        Starting system
        • Starter assembly
        Engine assembly
        • Engine assembly (excess friction)
        Cranking speed too high Engine assembly
        • Engine assembly (compression loss)
        There is no initial combustion Fuel supply problem
        • Cannot maintain pressure due to pressure regulator malfunction
        • Fuel injector assembly leak
        • Fuel leak from fuel line
        • Fuel pump control system
        • Fuel pump
        35 to 50
        Immobiliser system
        • Engine immobiliser system
        Ignition system malfunction
        • Spark plug
        • Crankshaft position sensor
        • Ignition coil assembly
        Engine stalls after starter turnoff Air suction
        • Intake system connections
        51 to 57
        Deposits in throttle body
        • Throttle body with motor assembly
        VVT valve does not return properly
        • Camshaft timing oil control valve
        Mass air flow meter malfunction
        • Mass air flow meter
        The initial combustion and starter turnoff occur late Engine coolant temperature sensor malfunction
        • Engine coolant temperature sensor
        58 to 71
        Mass air flow meter malfunction
        • Mass air flow meter
        Abnormal A/F learning value
        • Air fuel ratio sensor
        Deviation from fuel injection characteristics
        • Fuel injector assembly
        Wet-fouled or dry-fouled spark plug
        • Spark plug
        Lack of fuel pressure
        • Fuel pump
        • Fuel pump control system
      2. Systems to inspect.
        Troubleshooting by System Suspected Area Suspected Component Procedure
        Fuel system troubleshooting A Abnormal A/F learning value
        • Fuel injector assembly
        88 to 95
        96 to 103
        Rough idling
        • Crankshaft position sensor
        Abnormal fuel pressure
        • Fuel
        • Fuel leak from fuel line
        • Fuel pump
        Fuel system troubleshooting B Abnormal concentration of HC in surge tank
        • Purge VSV system
        • Fuel injector assembly
        104 to 106
        Fuel system troubleshooting C Injection signal system malfunction
        • Fuel injector assembly
        • Crankshaft position sensor
        • VVT sensor
        • ECM
        73 to 77
        Intake system troubleshooting Difference between ISC target value and opening angle when idling
        • Engine assembly (compression loss)
        • Valve timing
        • Engine coolant temperature sensor
        • ECM
        85 to 87
        107 to 109
        Ignition system troubleshooting VVT sensor and/or crankshaft position sensor signal malfunction
        • Crankshaft position sensor system (including sensor installation)
        • VVT sensor system (including sensor installation)
        • ECM
        78 to 84
        110 to 116
    NOTE:
    • Inspect the fuses for circuits related to this system before performing the following inspection procedure.
    • After turning ignition switch off, waiting time may be required before disconnecting the cable from the negative (-) battery terminal. Therefore, make sure to read the disconnecting the cable from the negative (-) battery terminal notices before proceeding with work (Refer to PRECAUTION [12/2015 - 08/2016] ).

    HINT: 

    • Read freeze frame data using the Techstream. The ECM records vehicle and driving condition information as freeze frame data the moment a DTC is stored. When troubleshooting, freeze frame data can help determine if the vehicle was moving or stationary, if the engine was warmed up or not, if the air fuel ratio was lean or rich, and other data from the time the malfunction occurred.
    • Bank 1 refers to the bank that includes the No. 1 cylinder.
    • Bank 2 refers to the bank that does not include the No. 1 cylinder.