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DTC 85: F-CAN Communication Failure

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NOTE: Check the fuel and emission systems DTCs with the HDS, and troubleshoot the ECM/PCM and F-CAN communication errors first (see GENERAL TROUBLESHOOTING INFORMATION ).
  1. Turn the ignition switch to ON (II).
  2. Clear the DTC with the HDS.
  3. Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0), then turn the ignition switch to ON (II) again.
  4. Wait about 5 seconds.
  5. Check for DTCs with the HDS.

    Is DTC 85 indicated? 

    YES  - Go to step  6.

    NO  - Intermittent failure, the system is OK at this time.

  6. Test-drive the vehicle.

    Does the speedometer work? 

    YES  - Go to step  10.

    NO  - Go to step  7.

  7. Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
  8. Disconnect the TPMS control unit 20P connector (see TPMS CONTROL UNIT REPLACEMENT ).
  9. Test-drive the vehicle.

    Does the speedometer work? 

    YES  - Check for loose terminals and poor connections at the TPMS control unit. If necessary, substitute a known-good TPMS control unit (see TPMS CONTROL UNIT REPLACEMENT  ) and recheck.

    NO  - Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0), and reconnect all connectors, then check and troubleshoot the fuel and emissions systems (see GENERAL TROUBLESHOOTING INFORMATION ).

  10. Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
  11. Short the SCS line with the HDS.
  12. Disconnect ECM/PCM connector A (49P).
  13. Disconnect the TPMS control unit 20P connector (see TPMS CONTROL UNIT REPLACEMENT ).
  14. Check for continuity between the TPMS control unit 20P connector terminals and the ECM/PCM connector A (49P) terminals individually (see table below).
    CONNECTOR TERMINAL REFERENCE TABLE

    Terminal Name TPMS Control Unit 20P Connector Terminal ECM/PCM Connector A (49P) Terminal
    F-CANL No. 11 No. 4
    F-CANH No. 2 No. 3

    Is Mere continuity? 

    YES  - Check for loose terminals and poor connections at the TPMS control unit and G502. If necessary, substitute a known-good TPMS control unit (see TPMS CONTROL UNIT REPLACEMENT  ), and recheck.

    NO  - Repair open in the wire between the TPMS control unit and the ECM/PCM.

    Fig 1: Checking Continuity Between TPMS Control Unit 20P Connector Terminals & ECM/PCM Connector A (49P) Terminals
    G05959154Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.