Diagnostic procedure
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NO.8 ENGINE RUNS ROUGH/ROLLING IDLE DESCRIPTION AND POSSIBLE CUSE
| STEP | INSPECTION | RESULTS | ACTION |
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| 1 | Does the engine knock/ping/detonate? | Yes | Go to the symptom troubleshooting "No. 13 Knocking/pinging/detonation-Acceleration/cruise". (See NO.13 KNOCKING/PINGING/DETONATION-ACCELERATION/CRUISE .) |
| No | Go to the next step. | ||
| 2 | Verify the following:
Are all the items normal? |
Yes | Go to the next step. |
| No | Service if necessary. Repeat Step 2. |
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| 3 | Connect the WDS or equivalent to the DLC-2. Turn the ignition switch to the ON position (Engine off). Retrieve any DTCs. Are there any DTCs displayed? |
Yes | DTC is displayed: Go to the applicable DTC inspection. (See DTC TABLE .) |
| No | No DTC is displayed: Go to the next step. |
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| 4 | Is the engine overheating? | Yes | Go to the symptom troubleshooting "No. 17 Cooling system concerns - Overheating". (See NO.17 COOLING SYSTEM CONCERNS-OVERHEATING .) |
| No | Go to the next step. | ||
| 5 |
NOTE:
Connect the pressure gauge to the A/C low and high pressure side lines.Start the engine and run it at idle.Turn the A/C switch on.Measure the low side and high side pressures.Are the pressures within the specifications?(See
REFRIGERANT PRESSURE CHECK
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Yes | Go to the next step. |
| No | If the A/C is always on, go to the symptom troubleshooting "No.24 A/C is always on or A/C compressor runs continuously". (See NO.24 A/C IS ALWAYS ON OR A/C COMPRESSOR RUNS CONTINUOUSLY .) For other symptoms, inspect the following:
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| 6 |
NOTE:
Connect the WDS or equivalent to the DLC-2.Turn the ignition switch to the ON position (Engine off).Retrieve any DTCs for EPS CM.Are there any DTCs displayed?
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Yes | DTC is displayed: Go to the applicable DTC inspection. (See DTC TABLE .) |
| No | No DTC is displayed: Go to the next step. |
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| 7 | Visually inspect the eccentric shaft position sensor and the teeth of the pulse wheel. Are the eccentric shaft position sensor and the teeth of the pulse wheel normal? |
Yes | Go to the next step. |
| No | Replace the malfunctioning parts. | ||
| 8 |
WARNING:
CAUTION:
Perform rotor balance test.(See
ROTOR BALANCE TEST .)Is the engine speed drop value the same for each rotor?
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Yes | Go to Step 13. |
| No | Go to the next step. | ||
| 9 | Inspect the high-tension lead for the rotor where the engine speed did not drop in Step 8 for cracks. Are there any cracks on high-tension lead? |
Yes | Repair the suspected high-tension lead. |
| No | Go to the next step. | ||
| 10 | Is a strong blue spark visible while cranking at each disconnected high-tension lead for the rotor where the engine speed does not drop in Step 8? | Yes | Go to the next step. |
| No | Inspect for the following:
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| 11 | Inspect the spark plug for the rotor where the engine speed did not drop in Step 8. Is the spark plug wet, covered with carbon or grayish white? |
Yes | Spark plug is wet or covered with carbon: Inspect for fuel leakage from the injector. Spark plug is grayish white: Inspect for clogged fuel injector (FP1) (RP1). |
| No | Go to the next step. | ||
| 12 | Perform the drive-by-wire control system operation inspection. (See DRIVE-BY-WIRE CONTROL SYSTEM INSPECTION .) Does the drive-by-wire control system work properly? |
Yes | Go to the next step. |
| No | Repair or replace the malfunctioning part according to the drive-by-wire control system operation inspection results. | ||
| 13 | Inspect for cracks on the high-tension leads. Are there any cracks on the high-tension leads? |
Yes | Repair suspected high-tension leads. |
| No | Go to the next step. | ||
| 14 | Is a strong blue spark visible at each disconnected high-tension lead while cranking engine? | Yes | Go to the next step. |
| No | Inspect for the following:
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| 15 | Inspect the spark plug condition. Is the spark plug wet, covered with carbon or grayish white? |
Yes | Spark plug is wet or covered with carbon: Inspect for fuel leakage from the fuel injector. Spark plug is grayish white: Inspect for clogged fuel injector (FP1) (RP1). |
| No | Install the spark plugs in the original positions. Go to the next step. |
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| 16 | Perform the SSV operation inspection. (See SECONDARY SHUTTER VALVE (SSV) OPERATION INSPECTION .) Does the SSV operate properly? |
Yes | Go to the next step. |
| No | Repair or replace the malfunctioning parts, according to the SSV operation inspection results. | ||
| 17 |
NOTE:
Perform the APV control inspection.(See
AUXILIARY PORT VALVE (APV) CONTROL INSPECTION .)Does the APV control operate properly?
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Yes | Go to the next step. |
| No | Repair or replace the malfunctioning parts, according to the APV control inspection results. | ||
| 18 | Disconnect the fuel line quick release connector and install the fuel gauge to the fuel line. Start the engine and run it at idle. Measure the fuel line pressure at idle. Is the fuel line pressure correct at idle? (See FUEL LINE PRESSURE INSPECTION .) |
Yes | Go to the next step. |
| No | Zero or low: Inspect for clogged fuel line. If normal, replace the fuel pump unit. (See FUEL PUMP UNIT REMOVAL/INSTALLATION .) High: Replace the fuel pump unit. (See FUEL PUMP UNIT REMOVAL/INSTALLATION .) |
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| 19 | Visually inspect for fuel leakage at the fuel injector, O-ring, and fuel line. Service if necessary. Does the fuel line pressure hold after the ignition switch is turned off? (See FUEL LINE PRESSURE INSPECTION .) |
Yes | Go to the next step. |
| No | Inspect the fuel injector. (See FUEL INJECTOR INSPECTION .) If the fuel injector is normal, replace the fuel pump unit. (See FUEL PUMP UNIT REMOVAL/INSTALLATION .) |
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| 20 | Access the ECT PID. Does the ECT PID indicate the proper engine coolant temperature? (See PCM INSPECTION .) |
Yes | Go to the next step. |
| No | Inspect for the following:
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| 21 | Connect the WDS or equivalent to the DLC-2. Start the engine and run it at idle. Access the LONG FT1 PID. Measure the LONG FT1 PID at idle. Is the PID value between -14% and +14% ? |
Yes | Go to the next step. |
| No | The LONG FT1 PID is out of the specification. LONG FT1 PID less than -14% (too rich):
LONG FT1 PID more than +14% (too lean):
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| 22 | Visually inspect the exhaust system part. Is there any deformed exhaust system part? |
Yes | Repair or replace the suspected part. |
| No | Go to the next step. | ||
| 23 | Perform the metering oil pump control inspection. (See METERING OIL PUMP CONTROL INSPECTION .) Does the metering oil pump control operate properly? |
Yes | Go to the next step. |
| No | Repair or replace the malfunctioning part according to the inspection results. | ||
| 24 | Perform the fuel injector (FP1) (RP1) operation inspection. (See FUEL INJECTOR OPERATION INSPECTION .) Are the fuel injectors (FP1) (RP1) operating properly? |
Yes | Go to the next step. |
| No | Repair or replace the malfunctioning parts, according to the fuel injector (FP1) (RP1) operation inspection results. | ||
| 25 | Inspect the fuel injectors (FP1) (RP1) for the following: (See FUEL INJECTOR INSPECTION .)
Are the fuel injectors (FP1) (RP1) normal? |
Yes | Go to the next step. |
| No | Replace the fuel injector (FP1) (RP1). (See FUEL INJECTOR REMOVAL/INSTALLATION .) |
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| 26 | Perform the AIR inspection. (See SECONDARY AIR INJECTION (AIR) SYSTEM INSPECTION .) Does the AIR system operate properly? |
Yes | Go to the next step. |
| No | Repair or replace the malfunctioning parts, according to the inspection results. | ||
| 27 | Inspect the engine compression. (See COMPRESSION INSPECTION .) Is it normal? |
Yes | Go to Step 33. |
| No | Go to the next step. | ||
| 28 | Perform the metering oil pump control inspection. (See METERING OIL PUMP CONTROL INSPECTION .) Does the metering oil pump control operate properly? |
Yes | Go to the next step. |
| No | Repair or replace the malfunctioning part according to the inspection results. After that overhaul or replace the engine. (See ENGINE REMOVAL/INSTALLATION or OVERHAUL - 1.3L (13B-MSB) .) |
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| 29 | Check the engine oil condition. Is the engine oil low viscosity and/or is there a gasoline odor? |
Yes | Replace the engine oil. Inspect the ECT sensor and the related wiring harnesses. (See ENGINE COOLANT TEMPERATURE (ECT) SENSOR INSPECTION .) After that overhaul or replace the engine. (See ENGINE REMOVAL/INSTALLATION or OVERHAUL - 1.3L (13B-MSB) .) |
| No | Go to the next step. | ||
| 30 | Inspect the oil pressure. (See OIL PRESSURE INSPECTION .) Is the oil pressure within the specification? |
Yes | Go to the next step. |
| No | Repair or replace the malfunctioning part according to the inspection results. After that overhaul or replace the engine. (See ENGINE REMOVAL/INSTALLATION or OVERHAUL - 1.3L (13B-MSB) .) |
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| 31 | Turn the ignition switch off. Disconnect the fuel line quick release connector and install the fuel gauge to the fuel line. Start the engine and run it at idle. Measure the fuel line pressure at idle. Is the fuel line pressure correct at idle? (See FUEL LINE PRESSURE INSPECTION .) |
Yes | Go to the next step. |
| No | Replace the fuel pump unit. (See FUEL PUMP UNIT REMOVAL/INSTALLATION .) After that overhaul or replace the engine. (See ENGINE REMOVAL/INSTALLATION or OVERHAUL - 1.3L (13B-MSB) .) |
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| 32 | Check the oil pipe between the metering oil pump and the metering oil nozzle. Is there any air and/or clogging in oil pipe? |
Yes | Inspect and repair for leakage and/or clogging in the oil passage at engine. After that overhaul or replace engine. (See ENGINE REMOVAL/INSTALLATION or OVERHAUL - 1.3L (13B-MSB) .) |
| No | Overhaul or replace the engine. (See ENGINE REMOVAL/INSTALLATION or OVERHAUL - 1.3L (13B-MSB) .) |
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| 33 | Disconnect the vacuum hose between the purge solenoid valve and the intake manifold at the quick release connector. Plug the opening end of vacuum hose. Start the engine. Does the engine condition improve? |
Yes | Check if the purge solenoid valve sticks open mechanically. Inspect the EVAP control system. |
| No | Inspect for the following:
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*: 13B-MSP (High Power)