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Diagnostic procedure

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NO.5 ENGINE STALLS-AFTER START/AT IDLE DIAGNOSTIC PROCEDURE

STEP INSPECTION RESULTS ACTION
1 Connect the WDS or equivalent to the DLC-2.
Do the following conditions appear?
  • The engine is not completely started.
  • DTC B1260 is displayed.
Yes Both conditions appear: 
Go to Step 3.
No Either or other condition appears: 
Go to the next step.
2 Does the engine stall after approx. 2 s  after the engine is started? Yes Go to the next step.
No The immobilizer system is normal.
Go to Step 9.
3 Is the coil connector securely connected to the coil? Yes Go to the next step.
No Connect the coil connector securely. Return to Step 2.
4 Does the security light illuminate? Yes Go to the next step.
No Inspect the instrument cluster and the following wiring harnesses.
  • Between PCM terminal 4V and instrument cluster terminal 1J
  • Between PCM terminal 4S and instrument cluster terminal 1L
5 Connect the WDS or equivalent to the DLC-2 and retrieve the DTC.
Are any of the following DTCs displayed?
DTC 
B1213, B1341, B1600, B1601, B1602, B1681, B2103, B2139, B2431, U1147, U2510 
Yes Go to the applicable DTC inspection.
(See DTC TABLE (IMMOBILIZER SYSTEM) .)
(See DTC TABLE [MULTIPLEX COMMUNICATION SYSTEM] .)
No Go to the next step.
6 Inspect the following wiring harnesses and connectors for an open or short circuit:
  • Between coil terminal A and keyless control module terminal 3F
  • Between coil terminal B and keyless control module terminal 3E

Are there any malfunctions?
Yes Repair or replace the wiring harnesses and connectors.
No Go to the next step.
7 Inspect the following wiring harnesses and connectors for an open or short circuit:
  • Between keyless control module terminal 3A and PCM terminal 4V
  • Between keyless control module terminal 3B and PCM terminal 4S

Are there any malfunctions?
Yes Repair or replace the wiring harnesses and connectors.
No Go to the next step.
8 Does the engine knock/ping/detonate? Yes Go to the symptom troubleshooting "No. 13 Knocking/pinging/detonation-Acceleration/cruise".
(See NO.13 KNOCKING/PINGING/DETONATION-ACCELERATION/CRUISE .)
No Go to the next step.
9 Verify the following:
  • Vacuum connection
  • Air cleaner element
  • No air leakage from intake-air system
  • Blockage at intake-air system (between MAF sensor and intake ports)
  • No restriction of intake-air system
  • Jet air mixing system passage (clogging or leakage)
  • Proper sealing of intake manifold Ignition wiring
  • MAF sensor installation
  • Fuel quality: proper octane, contamination, winter/summer blend
  • Electrical connections
  • Smooth operation of throttle valve

Are all the items normal?
Yes Go to the next step.
No Service if necessary.
Repeat Step 9.
10 Connect the WDS or equivalent to the DLC-2.
Turn the ignition switch to the ON position (Engine off).
Retrieve any DTCs.
Are there any DTCs displayed?
Yes DTC is displayed: 
Go to the applicable DTC inspection.
(See DTC TABLE .)
OR
Communication error message is displayed: 
Inspect for the following:
  • Open circuit between main relay and PCM terminal 5AC or 5AF
  • Open main relay GND circuit
  • The main relay is stuck open.
  • Open or poor GND circuit (PCM terminal 4A, 4J, 5T, 5D, 5O or 5R)
  • Poor connection of vehicle body GND
No No DTC is displayed: 
Go to the next step.
11 Connect the WDS or equivalent to the DLC-2.
Access the APP1 and APP2 PIDs.
Crank the engine with the accelerator pedal released.
Are the APP1 and APP2 PIDs indicating that the accelerator pedal is in the released position?
Yes Go to the next step.
No Inspect for the following:
  • APP sensor
  • Wiring harnesses and connectors between PCM and APP sensor
    • PCM terminal 4Y-APP sensor terminal D
    • PCM terminal 5F-APP sensor terminal F
    • PCM terminal 5AE-APP sensor terminal E
    • PCM terminal 4X-APP sensor terminal A
    • PCM terminal 5C-APP sensor terminal C
    • PCM terminal 5AB-APP sensor terminal B
12 Connect the WDS or equivalent to the DLC-2. Access the TP_REL PID.
Crank the engine with the accelerator pedal released.
Does TP_REL PID indicate the closed throttle position?
Yes Go to the next step.
No Inspect for the following:
  • TP sensor
  • Wiring harnesses and connectors between PCM and throttle body
    • PCM terminal 1Q-throttle body terminal E
    • PCM terminal 1J-throttle body terminal F
    • PCM terminal 2F-throttle body terminal C
    • PCM terminal 1M-throttle body terminal D
13 Access the ECT PID.
Does ECT PID indicate the proper engine coolant temperature?
(See PCM INSPECTION .)
Yes Go to the next step.
No Inspect for the following:
  • ECT sensor
  • Open or short circuit between ECT sensor and PCM terminal 2K or 1U
14 Attempt to start the engine at part throttle.
Does the engine run smoothly at part throttle?
Yes Inspect the drive-by-wire control system operation.
(See DRIVE-BY-WIRE CONTROL SYSTEM INSPECTION .)
No Go to the next step.
15 Connect the WDS or equivalent to the DLC-2. Access the RPM PID.
Does the RPM PID indicate the engine speed during engine cranking?
Yes Go to the next step.
No Inspect for the following:
  • Open or short circuit in eccentric shaft position sensor
  • Open or short circuit between eccentric shaft position sensor and PCM terminal 2U or 2X
  • Open or short circuit in eccentric shaft position sensor harnesses

If the eccentric shaft position sensor and the wiring harness are normal, go to the next step.
16 Visually inspect the eccentric shaft position sensor and the teeth of the pulse wheel.
Are the eccentric shaft position sensor and the teeth of the pulse wheel normal?
Yes Go to the next step.
No Replace the malfunctioning parts.
17 Inspect for cracks on the high-tension leads.
Are there any cracks on the high-tension leads?
Yes Repair the suspected high-tension leads.
No Go to the next step.
18 Is a strong blue spark visible at each disconnected high-tension lead while cranking the engine? Yes Go to the next step.
If the symptom occurs with the A/C on, go to Step 23.
No Inspect for the following:
  • Open or short circuit in ignition coil
  • Open circuit in high-tension leads
  • Open circuit between ignition coil connector GND terminal and body GND
  • Open circuit between ignition switch and ignition coil
  • Open circuit between ignition coil terminal E and PCM terminal 2Z, 2AA, 2AC or 2AD
19 Inspect the spark plug condition.
Is the spark plug wet, covered with the carbon or grayish white?
Yes Spark plug is wet or covered with carbon: 
Inspect for fuel leakage from the fuel injector.
Spark plug is grayish white: 
Inspect for clogged fuel injector (FP1) (RP1).
No Install spark plugs on the original positions.
Go to the next step.
20 Perform the fuel pump speed control operation inspection.
(See FUEL PUMP SPEED CONTROL OPERATION INSPECTION .)
Does the fuel pump speed control operate properly?
Yes Go to the next step.
No Repair or replace the malfunctioning parts, according to the fuel pump speed control operation inspection results.
21 Disconnect the fuel line quick release connector and install the fuel gauge to the fuel line.
Short the check connector terminal F/P to the body GND using a jumper wire.
Turn the ignition switch to the ON position.
Is the fuel line pressure correct with the ignition switch ON?
(See FUEL LINE PRESSURE INSPECTION .)
Yes Go to the next step.
No Zero or low: 
Inspect the fuel pump relay and the fuel pump circuit.
Inspect for clogged fuel line.
Inspect the fuel pump resister.
If normal, replace the fuel pump unit.
(See FUEL PUMP UNIT REMOVAL/INSTALLATION .)
High: 
Replace the fuel pump unit.
(See FUEL PUMP UNIT REMOVAL/INSTALLATION .)
22 Visually inspect for fuel leakage at the fuel injector, O-ring and fuel line. Service if necessary.
Is the fuel line pressure held after the ignition switch is turned off?
(See FUEL LINE PRESSURE INSPECTION .)
Yes Go to the next step.
No Inspect the fuel injector.
(See FUEL INJECTOR INSPECTION .)
If the fuel injector is normal, replace the fuel pump unit.
(See FUEL PUMP UNIT REMOVAL/INSTALLATION .)
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NOTE:
  • The following test is for stall concerns with the A/C on. If other symptoms exist, go to the next step.
Connect pressure gauges to the A/C low and high pressure side lines.Turn the A/C on and measure the low side and high side pressures.Are pressures within the specifications?(See REFRIGERANT PRESSURE CHECK .)
Yes Go to the next step.
No If the A/C is always on, go to the symptom troubleshooting "No.24 A/C is always on or A/C compressor runs continuously".
(See NO.24 A/C IS ALWAYS ON OR A/C COMPRESSOR RUNS CONTINUOUSLY .)
For other symptoms, inspect the following:
  • Refrigerant charging amount
  • Condenser fan operation
24 Disconnect the vacuum hose between the purge solenoid valve and intake manifold at the quick release connector.
Plug the opening end of the vacuum hose.
Start the engine.
Is the engine stall now eliminated?
Yes Inspect if purge solenoid valve is stuck open.
Inspect evaporative emission control system.
No Go to the next step.
25 Perform the SSV operation inspection.
(See SECONDARY SHUTTER VALVE (SSV) OPERATION INSPECTION .)
Does the SSV operate properly?
Yes Go to the next step.
No Repair or replace the malfunctioning parts, according to the SSV operation inspection results.
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NOTE:
  • The following test is for 13B-MSP (High Power). Go to the next step for 13B-MSP (Standard Power).
Perform the APV control inspection.(See AUXILIARY PORT VALVE (APV) CONTROL INSPECTION .)Does the APV control operate properly?
Yes Go to the next step.
No Repair or replace the malfunctioning parts, according to the APV control inspection results.
27 Is air leakage felt or heard at intake-air system components while racing the engine to a higher speed? Yes Repair or replace the malfunctioning parts.
No Go to the next step.
28 Check the oil pipe between the metering oil pump and the metering oil nozzle.
Is there air and/or clogging in oil pipe?
Yes Inspect and repair for leakage and/or clogging in the oil passage at engine.
No Go to the next step.
29 Perform the fuel injector operation inspection.
(See FUEL INJECTOR OPERATION INSPECTION .)
Does the fuel injector operate properly?
Yes Go to the next step.
No Repair or replace the malfunctioning part according to the inspection results.
30 Inspect fuel injectors for the following:
(See FUEL INJECTOR INSPECTION .)
  • Leakage
  • Clogging
  • Injector amount

Are injectors normal?
Yes Inspect the engine oil condition (viscosity, amount deterioration).
No Replace the suspected fuel injector.
31 Inspect the engine compression.
(See COMPRESSION INSPECTION .)
Is it normal?
Yes Visually inspect the exhaust system part.
No Go to the next step.
32 Perform the metering oil pump control inspection.
(See METERING OIL PUMP CONTROL INSPECTION .)
Does the metering oil pump control operate properly?
Yes Go to the next step.
No Repair or replace the malfunctioning part according to the inspection results.
After that overhaul or replace the engine.
(See ENGINE REMOVAL/INSTALLATION or OVERHAUL - 1.3L (13B-MSB) .)
33 Check the engine oil condition.
Is the engine oil low viscosity and/or is there a gasoline odor?
Yes Replace the engine oil.
Inspect the ECT sensor and the related wiring harnesses.
(See ENGINE COOLANT TEMPERATURE (ECT) SENSOR INSPECTION .)
After that overhaul or replace the engine.
(See ENGINE REMOVAL/INSTALLATION or OVERHAUL - 1.3L (13B-MSB) .)
No Go to the next step.
34 Inspect the oil pressure.
(See OIL PRESSURE INSPECTION .)
Is the oil pressure within the specification?
Yes Go to the next step.
No Repair or replace the malfunctioning part according to the inspection result.
After that overhaul or replace the engine.
(See ENGINE REMOVAL/INSTALLATION or OVERHAUL - 1.3L (13B-MSB) .)
35 Turn the ignition switch off.
Disconnect the fuel line quick release connector and install the fuel gauge to the fuel line.
Start the engine and run it at idle.
Measure the fuel line pressure at idle.
Is the fuel line pressure correct at idle?
(See FUEL LINE PRESSURE INSPECTION .)
Yes Go to the next step.
No Replace the fuel pump unit.
(See FUEL PUMP UNIT REMOVAL/INSTALLATION .)
After that overhaul or replace the engine.
(See ENGINE REMOVAL/INSTALLATION or OVERHAUL - 1.3L (13B-MSB) .)
36 Check the oil pipe between the metering oil pump and the metering oil nozzle.
Is there air and/or clogging in oil pipe?
Yes Inspect and repair for leakage and/or clogging in the oil passage at engine.
After that overhaul or replace engine.
(See ENGINE REMOVAL/INSTALLATION or OVERHAUL - 1.3L (13B-MSB) .)
No Overhaul or replace the engine.
(See ENGINE REMOVAL/INSTALLATION or OVERHAUL - 1.3L (13B-MSB) .)
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  • Verify test results.
    • If normal, return to the diagnostic index to service any additional symptoms.
    • If the malfunction remains, inspect the related Service Bulletins and/or the On-line Repair Information and perform the repair or diagnosis.