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Pinpoint Test Ar : DTC B272A

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NOTE: When taking measurements at Front Seat Climate Control Module (SCME) harness connectors, do not insert the electrical probes into the female connector pins. Inserting the probes into connector pins can cause intermittent or open electrical connections after reassembly resulting in Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs) and system failure. Touching the tip of these connector pins is recommended instead.
NOTE: The airbag warning indicator illuminates when the correct RCM fuse is removed and the ignition is ON.
NOTE: The SRS must be fully operational and free of faults before releasing the vehicle to the customer.

  1. AR1 CHECK THE Front Seat Climate Control Module (SCME) FOR ON-DEMAND DTCs

    • Start the vehicle and set the passenger seat to HIGH heat.
    • Enter the following diagnostic mode on the scan tool: Self Test - Front Seat Climate Control Module (SCME).

    Was DTC B272A retrieved on-demand during the self-test? 

    Yes  GO to  AR2.
    No  GO to  AR5.

  2. AR2 CHECK THE PASSENGER SEAT CUSHION TED THERMISTOR CIRCUITS FOR A SHORT TO GROUND

    • Ignition OFF.
    • Disconnect: Passenger Seat Side Airbag C3052.
    • Disconnect: Front Seat Climate Control Module (SCME) C3265B.
    • Disconnect: Passenger Seat Cushion TED C3040.
    • WARNING: Make sure no one is in the vehicle and there is nothing blocking or placed in front of any airbag when the battery is connected. Failure to follow these instructions may result in serious personal injury in the event of an accidental deployment.

      Connect the battery ground cable. Refer to Battery, Mounting and Cables .

    • Measure the resistance between:
      • Front Seat Climate Control Module (SCME) C3265B-2 , circuit VHS27 (WH/OG), harness side and ground.
      • Front Seat Climate Control Module (SCME) C3265B-3 , circuit RHS10 (BU/OG), harness side and ground.
    1. GFD137483Courtesy of FORD MOTOR COMPANY

    Are the resistances greater than 10, 000 ohms? 

    Yes  GO to  AR3.
    No  REPAIR the circuit(s). CLEAR the DTCs. REPEAT the self-test. DISCONNECT the battery ground cable. CONNECT passenger seat side airbag C3052. REPOWER the SRS. REFER to Supplemental Restraint System .

  3. AR3 CHECK THE PASSENGER SEAT CUSHION TED THERMISTOR AND WIRING

    • Connect: Passenger Seat Cushion TED C3040.
    • Measure the resistance between Front Seat Climate Control Module (SCME) C3265B-2 , circuit VHS27 (WH/OG), harness side and Front Seat Climate Control Module (SCME) C3265B-3 , circuit RHS10 (BU/OG), harness side. Note the ambient temperature and refer to the following table.
      Temperature Resistance
      0-10 °C (32-50 °F) 2, 782-1, 663 ohms
      10-20 °C (50-68 °F) 1, 837-1, 140 ohms
      20-30 °C (68-86 °F) 1, 260-806 ohms
      30-40 °C (86-104 °F) 893-570 ohms
      40-50 °C (104-122 °F) 630-428 ohms
    1. GFD137484Courtesy of FORD MOTOR COMPANY

    Is the resistance within the limits indicated? 

    Yes  GO to  AR18.
    No  GO to  AR4.

  4. AR4 CHECK THE PASSENGER SEAT CUSHION TED THERMISTOR

    • Disconnect: Passenger Seat Cushion TED C3040.
    • Measure the resistance between passenger seat cushion TED C3040 pin 5 and pin 8, component side. Note the ambient temperature and refer to the following table.
      Temperature Resistance
      0-10 °C (32-50 °F) 2, 782-1, 663 ohms
      10-20 °C (50-68 °F) 1, 837-1, 140 ohms
      20-30 °C (68-86 °F) 1, 260-806 ohms
      30-40 °C (86-104 °F) 893-570 ohms
      40-50 °C (104-122 °F) 630-428 ohms
    1. GFD137475Courtesy of FORD MOTOR COMPANY

    Is the resistance within the limits indicated? 

    Yes  REPAIR circuit VHS27 (WH/OG) or RHS10 (BU/OG) for an open or high resistance. CLEAR the DTCs. REPEAT the self-test. DISCONNECT the battery ground cable. CONNECT passenger seat side airbag C3052. REPOWER the SRS. REFER to Supplemental Restraint System .
    No  INSTALL a new passenger seat cushion TED. REFER to Seat Cushion Thermo-Electric Device . CLEAR the DTCs. REPEAT the self-test. DISCONNECT the battery ground cable. CONNECT passenger seat side airbag C3052. REPOWER the SRS. REFER to Supplemental Restraint System .

  5. AR5 CONFIRM THE FAULT WHILE MONITORING THE Front Seat Climate Control Module (SCME) SEAT BACK THERMAL ELECTRIC DEVICE TEMPERATURE (PBKTEMP) AND SEAT CUSHION THERMAL ELECTRIC DEVICE TEMPERATURE (PCSHTEMP) PIDs

    • Set the passenger seat to OFF.
    • Enter the following diagnostic mode on the scan tool: Clear DTCs - Front Seat Climate Control Module (SCME).
    • Enter the following diagnostic mode on the scan tool: DataLogger - Front Seat Climate Control Module (SCME).
    • Monitor the Front Seat Climate Control Module (SCME) PIDs PBKTEMP and PCSHTEMP.
    • NOTE: A crushed seat cushion foam pad or a crushed climate controlled seat manifold may be the cause of the fault making it necessary to occupy the seat to recreate and identify the fault.

      Attempt to recreate the fault. Start the vehicle and set the passenger seat to HIGH heat for at least 15 minutes while occupying the seat.

    Do the PIDs increase incrementally (gradually) and stay within 15 °C (27 °F) of each other? 

    Yes  Fault not present at this time. Fault may have been set due to a past failure, incorrect use of the climate controlled seat system by repeated switching between heat and cool modes or due to excessive passenger compartment temperature. CLEAR the DTCs. REPEAT the self-test.
    No  If the PCSHTEMP PID increases incrementally and is greater than 15 °C (27 °F) of the PBKTEMP PID, GO to  AR6.If the PCSHTEMP PID increases quickly (temperature "jumps" and does not increase incrementally) and is greater than 15 °C (27 °F) of the PBKTEMP PID, GO to  AR16.

  6. AR6 COMPARE OPERATION OF THE DRIVER AND PASSENGER SEATS

    • With the engine running, set both front seats to HIGH cool.
    • Note the airflow exhausting from the passenger seat cushion TED and compare it to the airflow exhausting from the driver seat cushion TED.
    • Carry out a wiggle test of the wire harnesses between the Front Seat Climate Control Module (SCME) and the passenger seat cushion TED while monitoring blower operation of the TED. The blower should operate consistently and not change speeds

    Is the airflow exhausting from the passenger seat cushion TED comparable to the airflow exhausting from the driver seat cushion TED with no change in operation when carrying out the wiggle test? 

    Yes  GO to  AR7.
    No  If the airflow exhausting from the passenger seat cushion TED is not comparable to the airflow exhausting from the driver seat cushion TED, GO to  AR8.If the passenger seat cushion TED blower operation changed while carrying out the wiggle test, IDENTIFY and REPAIR the wiring fault. CLEAR the DTCs. REPEAT the self-test.

  7. AR7 COMPARE OPERATION OF THE DRIVER AND PASSENGER SEATS WHILE OCCUPIED

    • Note the airflow exhausting from the passenger seat cushion TED with the passenger seat occupied and compare it to the airflow exhausting from the driver seat cushion TED with the driver seat occupied.

    Is the airflow exhausting from the passenger seat cushion TED comparable to the airflow exhausting from the driver seat cushion TED ? 

    Yes  GO to  AR16.
    No  INSTALL a new passenger seat cushion foam pad and/or climate controlled seat manifold. CLEAR the DTCs. REPEAT the self-test.

  8. AR8 CHECK THE PASSENGER SEAT CUSHION BLOWER FOR AN OBSTRUCTION OR RESTRICTED FILTER

    • Ignition OFF.
    • Inspect the blower of the passenger seat cushion TED assembly for an obstruction or for a restricted filter.

    Is the blower obstructed or the filter restricted? 

    Yes  REMOVE the obstruction or INSTALL a new filter. CLEAR the DTCs. REPEAT the self-test.
    No  GO to  AR9.

  9. AR9 CHECK THE PASSENGER SEAT CUSHION BLOWER SPEED CONTROL CIRCUIT FOR AN OPEN

    • Disconnect: Passenger Seat Side Airbag C3052.
    • Disconnect: Front Seat Climate Control Module (SCME) C3265C.
    • Disconnect: Passenger Seat Cushion TED C3040.
    • WARNING: Make sure no one is in the vehicle and there is nothing blocking or placed in front of any airbag when the battery is connected. Failure to follow these instructions may result in serious personal injury in the event of an accidental deployment.

      Connect the battery ground cable. Refer to Battery, Mounting and Cables .

    • Measure the resistance between Front Seat Climate Control Module (SCME) C3265C-3 , circuit RHS08 (VT/WH), harness side and passenger seat cushion TED C3040-7 , circuit RHS08 (VT/WH), harness side.
    1. GFD137485Courtesy of FORD MOTOR COMPANY

    Is the resistance less than 5 ohms? 

    Yes  GO to  AR10.
    No  REPAIR the circuit. CLEAR the DTCs. REPEAT the self-test. DISCONNECT the battery ground cable. CONNECT passenger seat side airbag C3052. REPOWER the SRS. REFER to Supplemental Restraint System .

  10. AR10 CHECK THE PASSENGER SEAT CUSHION BLOWER CIRCUIT FOR A SHORT TO VOLTAGE

    • Ignition ON.
    • Measure the voltage between Front Seat Climate Control Module (SCME) C3265C-7 , circuit CHS08 (BN/YE), harness side and ground.
    1. GFD137486Courtesy of FORD MOTOR COMPANY

    Is any voltage present? 

    Yes  REPAIR the circuit. CLEAR the DTCs. REPEAT the self-test. DISCONNECT the battery ground cable. CONNECT passenger seat side airbag C3052. REPOWER the SRS. REFER to Supplemental Restraint System .
    No  GO to  AR11.

  11. AR11 CHECK THE PASSENGER SEAT CUSHION BLOWER CIRCUIT FOR A SHORT TO GROUND

    • Ignition OFF.
    • Measure the resistance between Front Seat Climate Control Module (SCME) C3265C-8 , circuit CHS14 (GN), harness side and ground.
    1. GFD137451Courtesy of FORD MOTOR COMPANY

    Is the resistance greater than 10, 000 ohms? 

    Yes  GO to  AR12.
    No  REPAIR the circuit. CLEAR the DTCs. REPEAT the self-test. DISCONNECT the battery ground cable. CONNECT passenger seat side airbag C3052. REPOWER the SRS. REFER to Supplemental Restraint System .

  12. AR12 CHECK THE PASSENGER SEAT CUSHION BLOWER CIRCUITS FOR AN OPEN

    • Measure the resistance between:
      • Front Seat Climate Control Module (SCME) C3265C-8 , circuit CHS14 (GN), harness side and passenger seat cushion TED C3040-2 , circuit CHS14 (GN), harness side.
      • Front Seat Climate Control Module (SCME) C3265C-7 , circuit CHS08 (BN/YE), harness side and passenger seat cushion TED C3040-4 , circuit CHS08 (BN/YE), harness side.
    1. GFD137487Courtesy of FORD MOTOR COMPANY

    Are the resistances less than 5 ohms? 

    Yes  GO to  AR13.
    No  REPAIR the circuit(s). CLEAR the DTCs. REPEAT the self-test. DISCONNECT the battery ground cable. CONNECT passenger seat side airbag C3052. REPOWER the SRS. REFER to Supplemental Restraint System .

  13. AR13 CHECK THE PASSENGER SEAT CUSHION BLOWER RESISTANCE

    • NOTE: The ohmmeter must be connected with the positive lead to pin 2 and the negative lead to pin 4 when measuring. Ohmmeter leads incorrectly connected results in false readings and leads to incorrect identification of components that are not damaged.

      Measure the resistance between passenger seat cushion TED C3040 pin 2 and pin 4, component side.

    1. GFD137479Courtesy of FORD MOTOR COMPANY

    Is the resistance between 4, 000 ohms and 10, 000 ohms? 

    Yes  GO to  AR14.
    No  INSTALL a new passenger seat cushion TED. REFER to Seat Cushion Thermo-Electric Device . CLEAR the DTCs. REPEAT the self-test. DISCONNECT the battery ground cable. CONNECT passenger seat side airbag C3052. REPOWER the SRS. REFER to Supplemental Restraint System .

  14. AR14 CHECK THE PASSENGER SEAT CUSHION BLOWER SPEED CONTROL RESISTANCE

    • NOTE: The ohmmeter must be connected with the positive lead to pin 7 and the negative lead to pin 4 when measuring. Ohmmeter leads incorrectly connected results in false readings and leads to incorrect identification of components that are not damaged.

      Measure the resistance between passenger seat cushion TED C3040 pin 7 and pin 4, component side.

    1. GFD137480Courtesy of FORD MOTOR COMPANY

    Is the resistance between 240K ohms and 400K ohms? 

    Yes  GO to  AR15.
    No  INSTALL a new passenger seat cushion TED. REFER to Seat Cushion Thermo-Electric Device . CLEAR the DTCs. REPEAT the self-test. DISCONNECT the battery ground cable. CONNECT passenger seat side airbag C3052. REPOWER the SRS. REFER to Supplemental Restraint System .

  15. AR15 CHECK THE PASSENGER SEAT CUSHION TED INSTALLATION AND FOR CRUSHED SEAT CUSHION

    • Ignition OFF.
    • Inspect the passenger seat cushion for the following:
      • Is the passenger seat cushion TED correctly installed?
      • Is the passenger seat cushion seat cushion foam pad crushed or restricted?
      • Is the passenger seat cushion climate controlled seat manifold crushed or restricted?

    Is the passenger seat cushion TED correctly installed and are there no signs of damage to the foam pad and manifold? 

    Yes  INSTALL the passenger seat cushion cover and seat and GO to  AR18.
    No  CORRECTLY install the passenger seat cushion TED or INSTALL a new passenger seat cushion foam pad and/or climate controlled seat manifold. CONNECT the battery ground cable. REFER to Battery, Mounting and Cables . CLEAR the DTCs. REPEAT the self-test. DISCONNECT the battery ground cable. CONNECT passenger seat side airbag C3052. REPOWER the SRS. REFER to Supplemental Restraint System .

  16. AR16 CHECK THE PASSENGER SEAT CUSHION TED THERMISTOR AND WIRING

    • Ignition OFF.
    • Disconnect: Passenger Seat Side Airbag C3052.
    • Disconnect: Front Seat Climate Control Module (SCME) C3265B.
    • WARNING: Make sure no one is in the vehicle and there is nothing blocking or placed in front of any airbag when the battery is connected. Failure to follow these instructions may result in serious personal injury in the event of an accidental deployment.

      Connect the battery ground cable. Refer to Battery, Mounting and Cables .

    • Measure the resistance between Front Seat Climate Control Module (SCME) C3265B-2 , circuit VHS27 (WH/OG), harness side and C3265B-3 circuit RHS10 (BU/OG), harness side. Note the ambient temperature and refer to the following table.
      Temperature Resistance
      0-10 °C (32-50 °F) 2, 782-1, 663 ohms
      10-20 °C (50-68 °F) 1, 837-1, 140 ohms
      20-30 °C (68-86 °F) 1, 260-806 ohms
      30-40 °C (86-104 °F) 893-570 ohms
      40-50 °C (104-122 °F) 630-428 ohms
    1. GFD137481Courtesy of FORD MOTOR COMPANY

    Is the resistance within the limits indicated? 

    Yes  GO to  AR18.
    No  GO to  AR17.

  17. AR17 CHECK THE PASSENGER SEAT CUSHION TED THERMISTOR

    • Measure the resistance between passenger seat cushion TED C3040 pin 5 and pin 8, component side. Note the ambient temperature and refer to the following table.
      Temperature Resistance
      0-10 °C (32-50 °F) 2, 782-1, 663 ohms
      10-20 °C (50-68 °F) 1, 837-1, 140 ohms
      20-30 °C (68-86 °F) 1, 260-806 ohms
      30-40 °C (86-104 °F) 893-570 ohms
      40-50 °C (104-122 °F) 630-428 ohms
    1. GFD137475Courtesy of FORD MOTOR COMPANY

    Is the resistance within the limits indicated? 

    Yes  REPAIR circuit VHS27 (WH/OG) or RHS10 (BU/OG) for an open or high resistance. CLEAR the DTCs. REPEAT the self-test. DISCONNECT the battery ground cable. CONNECT passenger seat side airbag C3052. REPOWER the SRS. REFER to Supplemental Restraint System .
    No  INSTALL a new TED. REFER to Seat Cushion Thermo-Electric Device . CLEAR the DTCs. REPEAT the self-test. DISCONNECT the battery ground cable. CONNECT passenger seat side airbag C3052. REPOWER the SRS. REFER to Supplemental Restraint System .

  18. AR18 CHECK THE PASSENGER SEAT CUSHION TED HEATING/COOLING CIRCUITRY CURRENT DRAW

    • Connect: All Front Seat Climate Control Module (SCME), TED and Body Harness-to-Seat Harness Connectors.
    • NOTE: It may be necessary to open the seat wire harness conduit to allow placing the inductive current probe around the circuit as described in the following step. Care must be taken when opening up the wire harness so as not to damage any wiring or connectors. Do not damage any wiring or induce stress on any wiring or connectors. Close up the wire harness once repairs to the seat are complete.
      NOTE: Use a commercially available inductive current probe (such as Electronic Specialties Current Probe/Multimeter 685 or a Fluke I410 [used with a digital multimeter]) or the low current probe from the Vehicle Measurement Module available for use with IDS. If these are unavailable, the inductive current probe feature from a battery tester may be substituted.

      Place an inductive current probe around circuit CHS07 (GY/BU) near Front Seat Climate Control Module (SCME) C3265A-A and monitor the current draw.

    • Start the vehicle and set the passenger seat to HIGH heat.

    Is the current draw less than 11 amps? 

    Yes  GO to  AR19.
    No  INSTALL a new passenger seat cushion TED. REFER to Seat Cushion Thermo-Electric Device . CLEAR the DTCs. REPEAT the self-test. DISCONNECT the battery ground cable. CONNECT passenger seat side airbag C3052. REPOWER the SRS. REFER to Supplemental Restraint System .

  19. AR19 CHECK RESISTANCE OF THE PASSENGER SEAT CUSHION TED AND WIRING

    • Ignition OFF.
    • Disconnect: Front Seat Climate Control Module (SCME) C3265A.
    • Measure the resistance between Front Seat Climate Control Module (SCME) C3265A-A circuit CHS07 (GY/BU), harness side and C3265A-B , circuit RHS07 (BU), harness side.
    1. GFD137448Courtesy of FORD MOTOR COMPANY

    Is the resistance between 0.9 and 10 ohms? 

    Yes  GO to  AR21.
    No  GO to  AR20.

  20. AR20 CHECK THE RESISTANCE OF THE PASSENGER SEAT CUSHION TED

    • Disconnect: Passenger Seat Cushion TED C3040.
    • Measure the resistance between passenger seat cushion TED C3040 pin 1 and pin 3, component side.
    1. GFD137433Courtesy of FORD MOTOR COMPANY

    Is the resistance between 0.9 and 10 ohms? 

    Yes  REPAIR circuit CHS07 (GY/BU) or RHS07 (BU) for an open or high resistance. CLEAR the DTCs. REPEAT the self-test. DISCONNECT the battery ground cable. CONNECT passenger seat side airbag C3052. REPOWER the SRS. REFER to Supplemental Restraint System .
    No  INSTALL a new passenger seat cushion TED. REFER to Seat Cushion Thermo-Electric Device . CLEAR the DTCs. REPEAT the self-test. DISCONNECT the battery ground cable. CONNECT passenger seat side airbag C3052. REPOWER the SRS. REFER to Supplemental Restraint System .

  21. AR21 CHECK FOR CORRECT Front Seat Climate Control Module (SCME) OPERATION

    • Inspect the Front Seat Climate Control Module (SCME) and passenger seat cushion TED harness and component side connectors and the body harness-to-seat harness connectors for:
      • corrosion
      • damaged pins
      • pushed-out pins
    • Connect: All Front Seat Climate Control Module (SCME), TED and Body Harness-to-Seat Harness Connectors.
    • Make sure the connectors are seated correctly.
    • Start the engine.
    • Set the passenger seat to OFF.
    • Enter the following diagnostic mode on the scan tool: Clear DTCs - Front Seat Climate Control Module (SCME).
    • Attempt to recreate the fault. With the engine still running set the passenger seat to HIGH heat for at least 15 minutes.

    Is the concern still present? 

    Yes  INSTALL a new Front Seat Climate Control Module (SCME). REFER to Dual Climate Controlled Seat Module (DCSM) . REPEAT the self-test. TEST the system for normal operation. DISCONNECT the battery ground cable. CONNECT passenger seat side airbag C3052. REPOWER the SRS. REFER to Supplemental Restraint System .
    No  The system is operating correctly at this time. The concern may have been caused by a loose or corroded connector. DISCONNECT the battery ground cable. CONNECT passenger seat side airbag C3052. REPOWER the SRS. REFER to Supplemental Restraint System .
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