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Diagnostic Test

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  1. VERIFY THE DIAGNOSTIC TROUBLE CODE (DTC) IS ACTIVE 
    NOTE:

    Make sure the IOD fuse is installed and battery voltage is between 10 and 16 volts before proceeding.

    1. With the scan tool, read active DTCs.

      Is this DTC active?

      Yes 

      • Go To  2

      No 

  2. CHECK FOR ANY OF THE FOLLOWING ACTIVE DTCS 
    1. With the scan tool, read active DTCs from all modules.
      NOTE:

      Check for TIPM configuration, CAN Interior Bus hardware electrical, VIN Missing/Mismatch, battery or ignition related DTCs.

      Does the scan tool display any active DTCs to the conditions listed above?

      Yes 

      • Go to the DTC INDEX article and perform the appropriate diagnostic procedure.

      No 

      • Go To  3
  3. VERIFY THE HVAC MODULE IS ACTIVE ON THE BUS 
    1. Turn the ignition on.
    2. With the scan tool, view all modules.
    3. Verify the HVAC module is active on the bus.

      Is the HVAC module active on the bus?

      Yes 

      • Go To  4

      No 

  4. CHECK FOR ADDITIONAL COMMUNICATION RELATED DTCS 
    1. With the scan tool, view all modules.

      Is there more than one module with active DTCs "Logged Against" the HVAC?

      Yes 

      • Replace/update the HVAC module in accordance with the Service Information.
      • Perform the BODY VERIFICATION TEST. Refer to STANDARD PROCEDURE .

      No 

      • Go To  5
  5. CLEAR DTC IN MODULE SETTING FAULT 
    1. With the scan tool, select the module setting the DTC against the HVAC module.
    2. Clear active DTCs.

      Is this DTC still active?

      Yes 

      • Replace/update the module that set this DTC in accordance with the Service Information.
      • Perform the appropriate verification test for the module being replaced. If there is no verification test for the associated module perform the BODY VERIFICATION TEST. Refer to STANDARD PROCEDURE .

      No 

      • Go To  6
  6. CYCLE IGNITION 
    1. Cycle the ignition from RUN to OFF three times ending with the key in the RUN position.

      Does this DTC become active?

      Yes 

      • Go To  7

      No 

      • The condition is not present at this time. Using the wiring diagram/schematic as a guide, inspect the wiring for chafed, pierced, pinched, and partially broken wires and the wiring harness connectors for broken, bent, pushed out, and corroded terminals.
      • Perform the BODY VERIFICATION TEST. Refer to STANDARD PROCEDURE .
  7. CHECK FOR ADDITIONAL LOST COMMUNICATION FAULTS 
    1. With the scan tool, view all modules.

      Does the TIPM and other CAN C BUS modules show any Lost Communication DTCs with the remaining CAN C BUS modules?

      Yes 

      • Go To  8

      No 

      • Replace/update the module that set this DTC in accordance with the Service Information.
      • Perform the appropriate verification test for the module being replaced. If there is no verification test for the associated module perform the BODY VERIFICATION TEST. Refer to STANDARD PROCEDURE .
  8. (D265) CAN INTERIOR BUS (+) (125K) CIRCUIT SHORTED TO VOLTAGE 
    Fig 1: Checking CAN Interior BUS (+) Circuit For Short To Voltage
    GC0149425Courtesy of CHRYSLER GROUP, LLC
    1. Measure the voltage between the (D265) CAN Interior Bus (+) (125K) circuit and ground.

      Is the voltage above 5.0 volts?

      Yes 

      • Repair the short to voltage in the (D265) CAN Interior Bus (+) (125K) circuit.
      • Perform the BODY VERIFICATION TEST. Refer to STANDARD PROCEDURE .

      No 

      • Go To  9
  9. (D264) CAN INTERIOR BUS (-) (125K) CIRCUIT SHORTED TO GROUND 
    Fig 2: Checking CAN Interior Bus (-) Circuit For Short To Ground
    GC0149426Courtesy of CHRYSLER GROUP, LLC
    1. Turn the ignition off.
    2. Measure the resistance between ground and the (D264) CAN Interior Bus (-) (125K) circuit.

      Is the resistance below 10k Ohms?

      Yes 

      • Repair the short to ground in the (D264) CAN Interior Bus (-) (125K) circuit.
      • Perform the BODY VERIFICATION TEST. Refer to STANDARD PROCEDURE .

      No 

      • Replace/update the module that set this DTC in accordance with the Service Information.
      • Perform the appropriate verification test for the module being replaced. If there is no verification test for the associated module perform the BODY VERIFICATION TEST. Refer to STANDARD PROCEDURE .