DTC P0717 (CVT)

DTC P0717  : Input/Turbine Speed Sensor "A" Circuit No Signal

NOTE: 

• Before you troubleshoot, review the General Troubleshooting Information .
• This code is caused by an electrical circuit problem and cannot be caused by a mechanical problem in the transmission.

DTC (CVT)

1. Problem verification

   -1. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode.

   -2. Clear the DTC with the HDS.

   -3. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

   -4. Raise the vehicle on a lift. Make sure it is securely supported, and allow all four wheels to rotate freely.

   -5. Start the engine, disable the VSA by pressing the VSA OFF button.

   -6. Test-drive the vehicle at speeds over 19 mph (30 km/h) for at least 30 seconds. Slow down, and stop the wheels.

   -7. Check for Pending or Confirmed DTCs with the HDS.

   DTC Description	Confirmed DTC	Pending DTC	Freeze Frame
   P0717 Input/Turbine Speed Sensor "A" Circuit No Signal

   Is DTC P0717 indicated?

   YES 

   The failure is duplicated. Go to step 2.

   NO 

   Intermittent failure, the system is OK at this time. Check for poor connections and loose terminals between the torque converter turbine speed sensor and the PCM. If the freeze data/on-board snapshot of this DTC is recorded, try to reproduce the failure under the same conditions with the freeze data/on-board snapshot.

2. Determine possible failure area (NT line, others)

   -1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

   -2. Disconnect the following connector.

   Torque converter turbine speed sensor 3P connector

   -3. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode.

   -4. Measure the voltage between test points 1 and 2.

   Test condition	Vehicle ON mode
   	Torque converter turbine speed sensor 3P connector: disconnected
   Test point 1	Torque converter turbine speed sensor 3P connector No. 2
   Test point 2	Body ground

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   Is there about 5 V?

   YES 

   Go to step 3.

   NO 

   Go to step 5.

3. Open wire check (VCC2 line)

   -1. Measure the voltage between test points 1 and 2.

   Test condition	Vehicle ON mode
   	Torque converter turbine speed sensor 3P connector: disconnected

   Test point 1	Torque converter turbine speed sensor 3P connector No. 3
   Test point 2	Body ground

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   Is there about 5 V?

   YES 

   The VCC2 wire is OK. Go to step 4.

   NO 

   Repair an open in the VCC2 wire between the torque converter turbine speed sensor and the PCM.

4. Torque converter turbine speed sensor check

   -1. Measure the voltage between test points 1 and 2.

   Test condition	Vehicle ON mode
   	Torque converter turbine speed sensor 3P connector: disconnected
   Test point 1	Torque converter turbine speed sensor 3P connector No. 1
   Test point 2	Torque converter turbine speed sensor 3P connector No. 3

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   Is there about 5 V?

   YES 

   Replace the torque converter turbine speed sensor .

   NO 

   The torque converter turbine speed sensor is OK. Repair an open in the SG2 wire between the torque converter turbine speed sensor and the PCM.

5. Shorted wire check (NT line)

   -1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

   -2. Jump the SCS line with the HDS.

   -3. Disconnect the following connector.

   PCM connector B (51P)

   -4. Check for continuity between test points 1 and 2.

   Test condition	Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
   	Torque converter turbine speed sensor 3P connector: disconnected
   	PCM connector B (51P): disconnected
   Test point 1	Torque converter turbine speed sensor 3P connector No. 2
   Test point 2	Body ground

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   Is there continuity?

   YES 

   Repair a short to ground in the NT wire between the torque converter turbine speed sensor and the PCM.

   NO 

   The NT wire is not shorted. Go to step 6.

6. Open wire check (NT line)

   -1. Check for continuity between test points 1 and 2.

   Test condition	Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
   	Torque converter turbine speed sensor 3P connector: disconnected
   	PCM connector B (51P): disconnected
   Test point 1	Torque converter turbine speed sensor 3P connector No. 2
   Test point 2	PCM connector B (51P) No. 45

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   Is there continuity?

   YES 

   The NT wire is OK. Update the PCM if it does not have the latest software , or substitute a known-good PCM , then recheck. If DTC P0717 goes away and the PCM was updated, troubleshooting is complete. If DTC P0717 goes away and the PCM was substituted, replace the original PCM .

   NO 

   Repair an open in the NT wire between the torque converter turbine speed sensor and the PCM.