DTC P16E8

DTC P16E8  : PGM-FI-Shutter Grille LIN Communication Error

NOTE:  Before you troubleshoot, review the general troubleshooting information .

DTC (PGM-FI)

1. Problem verification

   -1. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode.

   -2. Clear the DTC with the HDS.

   -3. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

   -4. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode, and wait 10 seconds.

   -5. Check for Pending or Confirmed DTCs with the HDS.

   DTC Description	Confirmed DTC	Pending DTC
   P16E8 PGM-FI-Shutter Grille LIN Communication Error

   Is DTC P16E8 indicated?

   YES 

   The failure is duplicated. Go to step 2.

   NO 

   Intermittent failure, the system is OK at this time. Check for poor connections or loose terminals at the shutter grille and the PCM. If the on-board snapshot of this DTC is recorded, try to reproduce the failure under the same conditions with the on-board snapshot .

2. DTC check

   -1. Check for Pending or Confirmed DTCs with the HDS.

   DTC Description	Confirmed DTC	Pending DTC
   P16E3 PGM-FI-Battery Sensor LIN Communication Error

   Is DTC P16E3 indicated?

   YES 

   Go to step 3.

   NO 

   Go to step 7.

3. Determine possible failure area (LIN(BATT_SENSOR) line, others)

   -1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

   -2. Disconnect the following connector.

   Shutter grille 4P connector

   -3. Measure the resistance between test points 1 and 2.

   Test condition

   Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode

   	Shutter grille 4P connector: disconnected
   Test point 1	Shutter grille 4P connector (female terminal) No. 3:
   Test point 2	Body ground

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   Is there 1 MΩ or more?

   YES 

   Go to step 5.

   NO 

   Go to step 4.

4. Shorted wire check (LIN(BATT_SENSOR) line)

   -1. Jump the SCS line with the HDS, and wait more than 1 minute.

   Continue to check for continuity between the shutter grille 4P connector (female terminals) terminal No. 3 and body ground, while disconnecting these connectors, one at a time:

   • PCM connector A (50P)
   • 12 volt battery sensor 2P connector

   Does continuity go away when one of the above connectors is disconnected?

   YES 

   The LIN(BATT_SENSOR) wire is OK. Replace the part that caused an open when it was disconnected.

   NO 

   Repair a short in the LIN(BATT_SENSOR) wire between the PCM (A10), the 12 volt battery sensor and the shutter grille.

5. Determine possible failure area (shutter grille, others)

   -1. Reconnect the shutter grille 4P connector.

   -2. Disconnect the following connector.

   12 volt battery sensor 2P connector

   -3. Measure the resistance between test points 1 and 2.

   Test condition	Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
   	12 volt battery sensor 2P connector: disconnected
   Test point 1	12 volt battery sensor 2P connector (female terminals) No. 2:
   Test point 2	Body ground

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   Is there 1 MΩ or more?

   YES 

   Go to step 6.

   NO 

   Replace the shutter grille .

6. Open wire check (LIN(BATT_SENSOR) line)

   -1. Jump the SCS line with the HDS, and wait more than 1 minute.

   -2. Disconnect the following connectors.

   Shutter grille 4P connector

   PCM connector A (50P)

   -3. Measure the resistance between test points 1 and 2.

   Test condition	Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
   	12 volt battery sensor 2P connector: disconnected
   	Shutter grille 4P connector: disconnected
   	PCM connector A (50P): disconnected
   Test point 1	Shutter grille 4P connector (female terminal) No. 3:
   Test point 2	PCM connector A (50P) No. 10

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   Is there 1.0 Ω or less?

   YES 

   The LIN(BATT_SENSOR) wire is OK. Check for any authorized service information related to the DTCs or symptoms you are troubleshooting, or substitute a known-good PCM .

   NO 

   Repair an open in the LIN(BATT_SENSOR) wire between the PCM (A10) and the shutter grille.

7. Fuse check

   -1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

   -2. Check the following fuse.

   Fuse

   No. A22

   Is the fuse OK?

   YES 

   Go to step 8.

   NO 

   Check for a short in the VMP/+B_FR_FOG wire between the No. A22 fuse and the shutter grille. Also replace the No. A22 fuse.

8. Determine possible failure area (LIN(BATT_SENSOR) line, others)

   -1. Disconnect the following connector.

   Shutter grille 4P connector

   -2. Measure the voltage between test points 1 and 2.

   Test condition	Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
   	Shutter grille 4P connector: disconnected
   Test point 1	Shutter grille 4P connector (female terminals) No. 1:
   Test point 2	Shutter grille 4P connector (female terminals) No. 4:

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   Is there battery voltage?

   YES 

   Go to step 10.

   NO 

   Go to step 9.

9. Open wire check (VMP/+B_FR_FOG line)

   -1. Measure the voltage between test points 1 and 2.

   Test condition	Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
   	Shutter grille 4P connector: disconnected
   Test point 1	Shutter grille 4P connector (female terminals) No. 1:
   Test point 2	Body ground

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   Is there battery voltage?

   YES 

   Repair an open in the GND wire between the shutter grille and G351.

   NO 

   Repair an open in the VMP/+B_FR_FOG wire between the shutter grille and the No. A22 fuse .

10. Open wire check (LIN(BATT_SENSOR) line)

    -1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

    -2. Jump the SCS line with the HDS, and wait more than 1 minute.

    -3. Disconnect the following connectors.

    Shutter grille 4P connector

    PCM connector A (50P)

    -4. Measure the resistance between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition	Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
    	Shutter grille 4P connector: disconnected
    	PCM connector A (50P): disconnected
    Test point 1	Shutter grille 4P connector (female terminal) No. 3:
    Test point 2	PCM connector A (50P) No. 10

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    Is there 1.0 Ω or less?

    YES 

    The LIN(BATT_SENSOR) wire is OK. Replace the shutter grille .

    NO 

    Repair an open in the LIN(BATT_SENSOR) wire between the PCM (A10) and the shutter grille.