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DTC P0172 (1.5 L Engine)

DTC P0172  : Fuel System Too Rich

Special Tools Required 

Vacuum Pump/Gauge, 0-30 inHg Snap-on YA4000A or equivalent, commercially available 

NOTE: 

DTC Description Confirmed DTC Pending DTC
P0172 Fuel System Too Rich    

DTC (PGM-FI)

  1. Problem verification - Idle

    -1. Start the engine, and let it idle without load (in P or N).

    -2. Check the parameter (s) below with the HDS.

    Signal Threshold Current conditions
    Values Unit Values Unit
    AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) Less than 0.80      

    Do the current condition (s) match the threshold?

    YES 

    The AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) is too low at idle. Go to step 3.

    NO 

    The AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) is OK at idle. Go to step 2.

  2. Problem verification - On-board Snapshot

    -1. Review the on-board snapshot and record the value of the parameters below when the AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) was at its lowest point.

    ENGINE SPEED  
    VEHICLE SPEED  
    REL TP SENSOR  
    APP SENSOR  

    On-board Snapshot

    -2. Drive the vehicle according to the conditions determined above.

    Signal Current conditions
    Values Unit
    ENGINE SPEED    
    VEHICLE SPEED    
    REL TP SENSOR    
    APP SENSOR    

    -3. Check the parameter (s) below with the HDS while driving.

    Signal Threshold Current conditions
    Values Unit Values Unit
    AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) Less than 0.80      

    Do the current condition (s) match the threshold under the on-board snapshot conditions?

    YES 

    The AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) is too low under the conditions above. Go to step 3.

    NO 

    The AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) is OK under the same conditions as the on-board snapshot. The system is normal at this time. If the on-board snapshot of this DTC is recorded, try to reproduce the failure under the same conditions with the on-board snapshot .

  3. Check fuel pressure (low pressure side)

    -1. Start the engine, and let it idle.

    -2. Check the fuel pressure under the conditions when the AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) is 0.80 or less.

    Signal Current conditions
    Values Unit
    AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM)    

    Is the fuel pressure within a specified range of fuel pressure test?

    YES 

    The fuel pressure (low pressure side) is not the cause of the low AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) value. Go to step 4.

    NO 

    Replace the fuel tank unit .

  4. Check fuel pressure (high pressure side)

    -1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

    -2. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode.

    -3. Clear the DTC with the HDS.

    -4. Start the engine.

    -5. Hold the engine speed at 3, 000 rpm without load (in P or N) until the radiator fan comes on, then let it idle.

    -6. Select the DI FUEL PRESSURE TEST in the INSPECTION MENU with the HDS.

    DI FUEL PRESSURE TEST

    Does the HDS indicate NORMAL?

    YES 

    Go to step 5.

    NO 

    Go to the troubleshooting for DTC P0087 and DTC P0088 .

  5. Replace fuel:NOTE:  There would be an increased likelihood of a fuel related issue if the rich condition appeared shortly after refueling. The MIL DIST (MIL Distance) value in the DATA LIST in combination with the fuel level may help you make this determination.

    -1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

    -2. Drain the fuel from the fuel tank , then refill the fuel tank with known-good fuel.

    -3. Start the engine, and let it idle.

    -4. Operate the vehicle under the same conditions where the AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) was 0.80 or less.

    ENGINE SPEED  
    VEHICLE SPEED  
    REL TP SENSOR  
    APP SENSOR  

    On-board Snapshot

    Signal Current conditions
    Values Unit
    ENGINE SPEED    
    VEHICLE SPEED    
    REL TP SENSOR    
    APP SENSOR    

    -5. Check the parameter (s) below with the HDS while driving.

    Signal Threshold Current conditions
    Values Unit Values Unit
    AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) Less than 0.80      

    Do the current condition (s) match the threshold under the on-board snapshot conditions?

    YES 

    The fuel is not the cause of the low AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) value. Go to step 6.

    NO 

    The fuel was causing the low AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) value.

  6. Check MAF sensor reading

    -1. Continue to let the engine idle.

    -2. Make sure the following conditions are met:

    • Engine coolant temperature (ECT SENSOR 1) above 158 deg. F (70 deg. C)
    • Transmission in P or N
    • All engine and electrical loads turned off
    Signal Current conditions
    Values Unit
    ECT SENSOR 1    

    -3. Monitor the ENGINE SPEED in the DATA LIST with the HDS, then hold the engine speed at 2, 500 rpm with the accelerator pedal held steady.

    Signal Current conditions
    Values Unit
    ENGINE SPEED    

    -4. While holding the engine speed at 2, 500 rpm for 30 seconds, check the parameter (s) below with the HDS.

    Signal Threshold Current conditions
    Values Unit Values Unit
    MAF SENSOR 4.1-5.7 g/s    

    Do the current condition (s) match the threshold?

    YES 

    Go to step 7.

    NO 

    The MAF sensor read value is incorrect. Inspect for a cracked, damaged, or incorrectly installed air cleaner assembly. If OK, replace the MAF sensor/IAT sensor 1 .

  7. Check engine oil

    -1. Continue to let the engine idle.

    -2. Gently pinch the PCV vacuum hose (A).

    GHH425226Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    -3. Check the parameter (s) below with the HDS with the vacuum hose pinched.

    Signal Threshold Current conditions
    Values Unit Values Unit
    AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) Less than 0.80      

    Do the current condition (s) match the threshold?

    YES 

    Go to step 8.

    NO 

    The engine oil is contaminated. Determine the cause of the contaminated oil (faulty injectors, etc.), then replace the engine oil and oil filter .

  8. EVAP canister purge valve check

    -1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

    -2. Disconnect the following connector.

    EVAP canister purge valve 2P connector

    -3. Remove the EVAP canister purge valve with its vacuum hose connected.

    -4. Disconnect the vacuum hose (purge line) (A) from the EVAP canister purge valve (B) in the engine compartment, and connect a vacuum pump/gauge, 0-30 inHg (C) to the purge valve.

    GHH425227Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    -5. Start the engine.

    Does the vacuum pump indicate vacuum?

    YES 

    When the climate is warm, fuel vapor from the canister line to the fuel tank enters intake manifold, enriching mixture (excessively rich), causing the engine to stall in some cases. If needed, replace the EVAP canister purge valve .

    NO 

    Go to step 9.

  9. Replace A/F sensor (Sensor 1)

    -1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

    -2. Replace the A/F sensor (Sensor 1) with a known-good sensor .

    -3. Start the engine, and let it idle.

    -4. Operate the vehicle under the same conditions where the AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) was 0.80 or less.

    ENGINE SPEED  
    VEHICLE SPEED  
    REL TP SENSOR  
    APP SENSOR  

    On-board Snapshot

    Signal Current conditions
    Values Unit
    ENGINE SPEED    
    VEHICLE SPEED    
    REL TP SENSOR    
    APP SENSOR    

    -5. Check the parameter (s) below with the HDS while driving.

    Signal Threshold Current conditions
    Values Unit Values Unit
    AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) Less than 0.80      

    Do the current condition (s) match the threshold under the on-board snapshot conditions?

    YES 

    The A/F sensor (Sensor 1) is not the cause of the low AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) value. Reinstall the original A/F sensor (Sensor 1), then go to step 10.

    NO 

    The A/F sensor (Sensor 1) was causing the low AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) value. Replace the original A/F sensor (Sensor 1) .

  10. Replace injectors

    -1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

    -2. Replace the injectors with known-good injectors .

    -3. Start the engine, and let it idle.

    -4. Operate the vehicle under the same conditions where the AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) was 0.80 or less.

    ENGINE SPEED  
    VEHICLE SPEED  
    REL TP SENSOR  
    APP SENSOR  

    On-board Snapshot

    Signal Current conditions
    Values Unit
    ENGINE SPEED    
    VEHICLE SPEED    
    Signal Current conditions
    Values Unit
    REL TP SENSOR    
    APP SENSOR    

    -5. Check the parameter (s) below with the HDS while driving.

    Signal Threshold Current conditions
    Values Unit Values Unit
    AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) Less than 0.80      

    Do the current condition (s) match the threshold under the on-board snapshot conditions?

    YES 

    The injectors are not the cause of the low AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) value. Substitute a known-good PCM , then recheck.

    NO 

    The injectors were causing the low AF FB (ST FUEL TRIM) value. Replace all injectors as a set .