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DTC P1658 (6-Speed A/T, 16-18 9-Speed A/T)

DTC P1658  : ETCS Control Relay ON Malfunction

NOTE:  Before you troubleshoot, review the general troubleshooting information - Refer to: How to Troubleshoot the Fuel and Emissions Systems .

DTC Description Confirmed DTC Pending DTC Freeze Frame
P1658 ETCS Control Relay ON Malfunction      

DTC (PGM-FI)

  1. Problem verification

    - 1. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode.

    - 2. Select the ETCS TEST in the INSPECTION MENU with the HDS.

    ETCS TEST

    Is the RELAY circuit OK?

    YES 

    Intermittent failure, the system is OK at this time. Check for poor connections or loose terminals at the relay circuit board (ETCS control relay circuit) and the PCM. If the freeze data/on-board snapshot of this DTC is recorded, try to reproduce the failure under the same conditions with the freeze data/on-board snapshot - Refer to: How to Troubleshoot the Fuel and Emissions Systems .

    NO 

    The failure is duplicated. Go to step 2.

  2. Relay circuit board check

    - 1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

    - 2. Remove and test the relay circuit board.

    Is the relay OK?

    YES 

    Go to step 3.

    NO 

    Replace the relay circuit board .

  3. Shorted wire check (DBW RLY line)

    - 1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

    - 2. Jump the SCS line with the HDS, and wait more than 1 minute.

    - 3. Disconnect the following connector.

    PCM connector A (51P)

    - 4. Check for continuity between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
    Relay circuit board: disconnected
    PCM connector A (51P): disconnected
    Test point 1 PCM connector A (51P) No. 13 - Refer to:
    PCM Connector for Inputs and Outputs (16-20 6-Speed A/T), or
    PCM Connector for Inputs and Outputs (16-18, 9-Speed A/T)
    Test point 2 Body ground

    Is there continuity?

    YES 

    Repair a short in the DBW RLY wire between the PCM (A13) and the relay circuit board.

    NO 

    The DBW RLY wire is OK. Go to step 4.

  4. Shorted wire check (IG1M/IG1 (DBW) line to power)

    - 1. Disconnect the following connector.

    PCM connector C (51P)

    - 2. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode.

    - 3. Measure the voltage between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition Vehicle ON mode
    Relay circuit board: disconnected
    PCM connector A (51P): disconnected
    PCM connector C (51P): disconnected
    Test point 1 PCM connector C (51P) No. 4 - Refer to:
    PCM Connector for Inputs and Outputs (16-18, 9-Speed A/T), or
    PCM Connector for Inputs and Outputs (16-20 6-Speed A/T)
    Test point 2 Body ground

    Is there battery voltage?

    YES 

    Repair a short to power in the IG1M/IG1 (DBW) wire between the PCM (C4) and the relay circuit board.

    NO 

    The IG1M/IG1 (DBW) wire is OK. Check for any authorized service information related to the DTCs or symptoms you are troubleshooting or substitute a known-good PCM - Refer to: PCM Removal and Installation (6-Speed A/T, 16-18 9-Speed A/T) .