DTC P0617 (6-Speed A/T, 16-18 9-Speed A/T)

DTC P0617  : Starter Cut Relay Diagnosis Circuit High Voltage

NOTE:  Before you troubleshoot, review the general troubleshooting information - Refer to: How to Troubleshoot the Fuel and Emissions Systems, or How to Troubleshoot the A/T System .

DTC (PGM-FI)

1. Problem verification

   - 1. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode.

   - 2. Clear the DTC with the HDS.

   - 3. Check the parameter (s) below with the HDS.

   Signal	Threshold		Current conditions
   	Values	Unit	Values	Unit
   STARTER CUT RELAY	More than 4.67	V

   Do the current condition (s) match the threshold?

   YES 

   The failure is duplicated. Go to step 2.

   NO 

   Intermittent failure, the system is OK at this time. Check for poor connections or loose terminals at starter cut relay 1, starter cut relay 2, and the PCM. If the freeze data/on-board snapshot of this DTC is recorded, try to reproduce the failure under the same conditions with the freeze data/on-board snapshot - Refer to: How to Troubleshoot the Fuel and Emissions Systems, or How to Troubleshoot the A/T System .

2. Determine possible failure area (STRLD line, others)

   - 1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

   - 2. Remove the following fuse.

   Fuse	No. B17 (7.5 A)
   Location	Auxiliary under-hood fuse/relay box

   - 3. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode.

   - 4. Check the parameter (s) below with the HDS.

   Signal	Threshold		Current conditions
   	Values	Unit	Values	Unit
   STARTER CUT RELAY	More than 4.67	V

   Do the current condition (s) match the threshold?

   YES 

   Go to step 4.

   NO 

   The STRLD wire is OK. Go to step 3.

3. Relay check

   - 1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

   - 2. Remove starter cut relay 1 (A) from the auxiliary under-hood fuse/relay box.

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   - 3. Test starter cut relay 1.

   Is the relay OK?

   YES 

   Repair a short to power in the STRLD wire between the No. B17 (7.5 A) fuse in the auxiliary under-hood fuse/relay box, starter cut relay 1, and starter cut relay 2. If needed, replace the auxiliary under-hood fuse/relay box.

   NO 

   Replace starter cut relay 1.

4. Shorted wire check (STRLD line to power)

   - 1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

   - 2. Jump the SCS line with the HDS, and wait more than 1 minute.

   - 3. Disconnect the following connector.

   PCM connector A (51P)

   - 4. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode.

   - 5. Measure the voltage between test points 1 and 2.

   Test condition	Vehicle ON mode
   	Starter cut relay 1: disconnected
   	No. B17 (7.5 A) fuse: removed
   	PCM connector A (51P): disconnected
   Test point 1	PCM connector A (51P) No. 26 - Refer to: PCM Connector for Inputs and Outputs (16-18, 9-Speed A/T), or PCM Connector for Inputs and Outputs (16-20 6-Speed A/T)
   Test point 2	Body ground

   Is there about 0.1 V or less?

   YES 

   The STRLD wire is OK. Check for any authorized service information related to the DTCs or symptoms you are troubleshooting or substitute a known-good PCM - Refer to: PCM Removal and Installation (6-Speed A/T, 16-18 9-Speed A/T) .

   NO 

   Repair a short to power in the STRLD wire between the PCM (A26) and the No. B17 (7.5 A) fuse in the auxiliary under-hood fuse/relay box.