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DTC P0141, P0161 (6-Speed A/T, '16-'18 9-Speed A/T)

DTC P0141  : Rear Secondary HO2S (Bank 1, Sensor 2) Heater Circuit Malfunction

DTC P0161  : Front Secondary HO2S (Bank 2, Sensor 2) Heater Circuit Malfunction

NOTE: 

DTC Description Confirmed DTC Pending DTC Freeze Frame
P0141 Rear Secondary HO2S (Bank 1, Sensor 2) Heater Circuit Malfunction      
P0161 Front Secondary HO2S (Bank 2, Sensor 2) Heater Circuit Malfunction      

DTC (PGM-FI)

  1. Problem verification

    -1. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode.

    - 2. Clear the DTC with the HDS.

    DTC (PGM-FI)

    - 3. Start the engine, and let it idle.

    - 4. Check for Pending or Confirmed DTCs with the HDS.

    DTC Description Confirmed DTC Pending DTC Freeze Frame
    P0141 Rear Secondary HO2S (Bank 1, Sensor 2) Heater Circuit Malfunction      
    P0161 Front Secondary HO2S (Bank 2, Sensor 2) Heater Circuit Malfunction      

    Is DTC P0141 and/or P0161 * indicated?

    YES 

    The failure is duplicated. Go to step 2.

    NO 

    Intermittent failure, the system is OK at this time. Check for poor connections or loose terminals at secondary HO2S (Sensor 2) and the PCM. If the freeze data/on-board snapshot of this DTC is recorded, try to reproduce the failure under the same conditions with the freeze data/on-board snapshot - Refer to: How to Troubleshoot the Fuel and Emissions Systems

  2. Determine possible failure area (IG (LAF O2)/FI SUB line, others)

    -1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

    - 2. Check the following fuse.

    Fuse No. A22 (15 A)
    Location Under-hood fuse/relay box

    Is the fuse OK?

    YES 

    The IG (LAF O2)/FI SUB wire is not shorted. Go to step 3.

    NO 

    Go to step 10.

  3. Relay circuit board check

    -1. Remove and test the relay circuit board.

    Is the relay circuit board OK?

    YES 

    The relay circuit board is OK. Go to step 4.

    NO 

    Replace the relay circuit board .

  4. Secondary HO2S (Sensor 2) internal heater resistance check

    -1. Disconnect the following connectors.

    Front secondary HO2S (Sensor 2) 4P connector
    Rear secondary HO2S (Sensor 2) 4P connector

    - 2. At the sensor side, measure the resistance between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
     
     
    Relay circuit board: disconnected
    Front and rear secondary HO2S (Sensor 2) 4P connectors: disconnected
    Test point 1 Secondary HO2S (Sensor 2) 4P connector No. 3 (secondary HO2S (Sensor 2) side)
    Test point 2 Secondary HO2S (Sensor 2) 4P connector No. 4 (secondary HO2S (Sensor 2) side)

    Rear bank (Bank 1): 

    GHH307211Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Front bank (Bank 2): 

    GHH307212Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Is there 5.4-7.3 Ω at room temperature?

    YES 

    Go to step 5.

    NO 

    Replace secondary HO2S (Sensor 2) .

  5. Secondary HO2S (Sensor 2) internal circuit check

    -1. At the sensor side, check for continuity under the following conditions.

    Test condition Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
     
     
    Relay circuit board: disconnected
    Front and rear secondary HO2S (Sensor 2) 4P connectors: disconnected
    Test point 1 Rear secondary HO2S (Bank 1, Sensor 2) 4P connector No. 3 and No. 4 (secondary HO2S (Sensor 2) side)
    Front secondary HO2S (Bank 2, Sensor 2) 4P connector No. 3 and No. 4 (secondary HO2S (Sensor 2) side) *
    Test point 2 Body ground

    Rear bank (Bank 1): 

    GHH307213Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Front bank (Bank 2): 

    GHH307214Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Is there continuity?

    YES 

    Replace secondary HO2S (Sensor 2) .

    NO 

    Go to step 6.

  6. Shorted wire check (SO2HT B1 (SO2HT B2) * line):

    - 1.Jump the SCS line with the HDS, and wait more than 1 minute.

    - 2. Disconnect the following connector.

    PCM connector C (51P)

    - 3. Check for continuity between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
     
     
     
    Relay circuit board: disconnected
    Front and rear secondary HO2S (Sensor 2) 4P connectors: disconnected
    PCM connector C (51P): disconnected
    Test point 1
     
    PCM connector C (51P) No. 5 - Refer to:
    PCM Connector for Inputs and Outputs (9-Speed A/T) (2016 2017 2018), or
    PCM Connector for Inputs and Outputs (6-Speed A/T) (2016 2017 2018 2019 2020)
    PCM connector C (51P) No. 7 * - Refer to:
    PCM Connector for Inputs and Outputs (6-Speed A/T) (2016 2017 2018 2019 2020), or
    PCM Connector for Inputs and Outputs (9-Speed A/T) (2016 2017 2018)
    Test point 2 Body ground

    Is there continuity?

    YES 

    Repair a short in the SO2HT B1 (SO2HT B2) * wire between the PCM (C5 (C7) *) and secondary HO2S (Sensor 2).

    NO 

    The SO2HT B1 (SO2HT B2) * wire is not shorted. Go to step 7.

  7. Open wire check (SO2HT B1 (SO2HT B2) * line):

    - 1.Check for continuity between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
      Relay circuit board: disconnected
      Front and rear secondary HO2S (Sensor 2) 4P connectors: disconnected
      PCM connector C (51P): disconnected
    Test point 1 Rear secondary HO2S (Bank 1, Sensor 2) 4P connector No. 4
      Front secondary HO2S (Bank 2, Sensor 2) 4P connector No. 3 *
    Test point 2 PCM connector C (51P) No. 5 - Refer to:
    PCM Connector for Inputs and Outputs (9-Speed A/T) (2016 2017 2018), or
    PCM Connector for Inputs and Outputs (6-Speed A/T) (2016 2017 2018 2019 2020)
      PCM connector C (51P) No. 7 * - Refer to:
    PCM Connector for Inputs and Outputs (6-Speed A/T) (2016 2017 2018 2019 2020), or
    PCM Connector for Inputs and Outputs (9-Speed A/T) (2016 2017 2018)

    Rear bank (Bank 1): 

    GHH307215Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Front bank (Bank 2): 

    GHH307216Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Is there continuity?

    YES 

    The SO2HT B1 (SO2HT B2) * wire is OK. Go to step 8.

    NO 

    Repair an open in the SO2HT B1 (SO2HT B2) * wire between the PCM (C5 (C7) *) and secondary HO2S (Sensor 2).

  8. Open wire check (IG (LAF O2)/FI SUB line)

    -1. Check for continuity between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
     
     
     
    Relay circuit board: disconnected
    Front and rear secondary HO2S (Sensor 2) 4P connectors: disconnected
    PCM connector C (51P): disconnected
    Test point 1 Relay circuit board connector A (10P) No. 4
    Test point 2 Rear secondary HO2S (Bank 1, Sensor 2) 4P connector No. 3
    Front secondary HO2S (Bank 2, Sensor 2) 4P connector No. 4 *

    Rear bank (Bank 1): 

    GHH307217Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Front bank (Bank 2): 

    GHH307218Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Is there continuity?

    YES 

    The IG (LAF O2)/FI SUB is not open. Go to step 9.

    NO 

    Repair an open in the IG (LAF O2)/FI SUB wire between secondary HO2S (Sensor 2) and the relay circuit board.

  9. Open wire check (LAF RLY line)

    -1. Disconnect the following connector.

    PCM connector A (51P)

    - 2. Check for continuity between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
     
     
     
     
    Relay circuit board: disconnected
    Front and rear secondary HO2S (Sensor 2) 4P connectors: disconnected
    PCM connector C (51P): disconnected
    PCM connector A (51P): disconnected
    Test point 1 Relay circuit board connector A (10P) No. 6
    Test point 2 PCM connector A (51P) No. 14 - Refer to:
    PCM Connector for Inputs and Outputs (9-Speed A/T) (2016 2017 2018), or
    PCM Connector for Inputs and Outputs (6-Speed A/T) (2016 2017 2018 2019 2020)

    Is there continuity?

    YES 

    The LAF RLY wire is OK. Check for any authorized service information related to the DTCs or symptoms you are troubleshooting or substitute a known-good PCM - Refer to: PCM Removal and Installation (6-Speed A/T), (9-Speed A/T 2016 2017 2018) .

    NO 

    Repair an open in the LAF RLY wire between the PCM (A14) and the relay circuit board.

  10. Shorted wire check (IG (LAF O2)/FI SUB line)

    -1. Disconnect the following connectors.

    Relay circuit board connector A (10P)
    Front and rear secondary HO2S (Sensor 2) 4P connectors
    Front and rear A/F sensor (Sensor 1) 6P connectors
    EVAP canister vent shut valve 2P connector (USA and Canada models)

    - 2. Check for continuity between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
    Relay circuit board: disconnected
    Front and rear secondary HO2S (Sensor 2) 4P connectors: disconnected
    Front and rear A/F sensor (Sensor 1) 6P connectors: disconnected
    EVAP canister vent shut valve 2P connector (USA and Canada models): disconnected
    Test point 1 Rear secondary HO2S (Bank 1, Sensor 2) 4P connector No. 3
    Front secondary HO2S (Bank 2, Sensor 2) 4P connector No. 4 *
    Test point 2 Body ground

    Rear bank (Bank 1): 

    GHH307219Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Front bank (Bank 2): 

    GHH307220Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Is there continuity?

    YES 

    Repair a short in the IG (LAF O2)/FI SUB wire between the relay circuit board, secondary HO2S (Sensor 2), and the EVAP canister vent shut valve (USA and Canada models). Also replace the No. A22 (15 A) fuse in the under-hood fuse/relay box.

    NO 

    The IG (LAF O2)/FI SUB wire is OK. Check the under-hood fuse/relay box, and replace it if needed. Also replace the No. A22 (15 A) fuse.