DTC U0164: Gauge Control Module Lost Communication With A/C

NOTE: If you are troubleshooting multiple DTCs, be sure to follow the instructions in B-CAN System Diagnosis Test Mode A (see TROUBLESHOOTING - B-CAN SYSTEM DIAGNOSIS TEST MODE A ).

Clear the DTCs with the HDS.
Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0) and then back to ON (II).
Wait for at least 6 seconds.
Check for DTCs with the HDS.
Is DTC U0164 Indicated?

YES -Go to step 5.

NO -Intermittent failure, the system is OK at this time. Check for loose or poor connections between the gauge control module and climate control unit or HVAC control unit.
From the BODY ELECTRICAL SYSTEM SELECT menu, select B-CAN CONTROL UNITS INFORMATION, and then select CHECK CONNECTED CONTROL UNITS.
Is the climate control/HVAC control unit detected?

YES -Go to step 9.

NO -Go to step 6.
Measure the voltage between body ground and climate control unit connector A (36P) terminal No. 18 or HVAC control unit connector B (16P) terminal No. 15.
With climate control

Fig 1: Measuring Voltage Between Body Ground And Climate Control Unit Connector A (36P) Terminal No. 18 (With Climate Control)
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Without climate control

Fig 2: Measuring Voltage Between Body Ground And HVAC Control Unit Connector B (16P) Terminal No. 15 (Without Climate Control)
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Is there battery voltage?

YES -Go to step 8.

NO -Go to step 7.
Check the No. 36(10 A) fuse in the under-dash fuse/relay box.
Is the fuse OK?

YES -Repair an open or high resistance in the No. 36 (10 A) fuse circuit.

NO -Replace the fuse. If the fuse blows again, repair a short to ground in the No. 36(10 A) fuse circuit.
Measure the voltage between body ground and climate control unit connector A (36P) terminal No. 36 or HVAC control unit connector B(16P) terminal No. 4.
With climate control

Fig 3: Measuring Voltage Between Body Ground And Climate Control Unit Connector A (36P) Terminal No. 36 (With Climate Control)
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Without climate control

Fig 4: Measuring Voltage Between Body Ground And Hvac Control Unit Connector B(16P) Terminal No. 4 (Without Climate Control)
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Is there less than 0.2 V

YES -Go to step 9.

NO -Repair an open or high resistance in the ground wire or poor ground (G403).
Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
Disconnect the gauge control module 32P connector.
Disconnect climate control unit connector A (36P) or HVAC control unit connector A (24P).
Check for continuity between gauge control module 32P connector terminals No. 19 and No. 20 and climate control unit connector A (36P) terminals No. 19 and No. 1 or HVAC control unit connector A (24P) terminals No. 24 and No. 23 respectively.
With climate control

Fig 5: Checking Continuity Between Gauge Control Module 32P Connector Terminals And Climate Control Unit Connector A (36P) Terminals (With Climate Control)
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Without climate control

Fig 6: Checking Continuity Between Gauge Control Module 32P Connector Terminals And HVAC Control Unit Connector A (24P) Terminals (Without Climate Control)
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Is there continuity?

YES -Replace the climate control unit (see CLIMATE CONTROL UNIT REMOVAL/INSTALLATION ) or HVAC control unit (see HVAC CONTROL UNIT REMOVAL/INSTALLATION ).

NO -Repair an open or poor connection in the B-CAN wire between the gauge control module and the climate control unit or the HVAC control unit.