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DTC 85: F-CAN Communication Failure

NOTE: Check the fuel and emissions systems DTCs with the HDS, and troubleshoot the ECM/PCM and F-CAN communication errors first (see GENERAL TROUBLESHOOTING INFORMATION ).
  1. Turn the ignition switch to ON (II).
  2. Clear the DTC with the HDS.
  3. Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0), then turn it to ON (II) again.
  4. Wait about 5 seconds.
  5. Check for DTCs with the HDS.

    Is DTC 85 indicated? 

    YES  -Go to step  6.

    NO  -Intermittent failure, the system is OK at this time.

  6. Test-drive the vehicle.

    Does the speedometer work? 

    YES  -Go to step  10.

    NO  -Go to step  7.

  7. Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
  8. Disconnect the TPMS control unit 20P connector (see step  3 ).
  9. Test-drive the vehicle.

    Does the speedometer work? 

    YES  -Check for loose terminals and poor connections at the TPMS control unit. If necessary, substitute a known-good TPMS control unit (see TPMS CONTROL UNIT REPLACEMENT  ), and recheck.

    NO  -Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0), and reconnect all connectors, then check and troubleshoot the fuel and emissions systems (see GENERAL TROUBLESHOOTING INFORMATION ).

  10. Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
  11. Short the SCS line with the HDS.
  12. Disconnect ECM/PCM connector A (44P) (see step 14 on ECM/PCM REPLACEMENT ).
  13. Disconnect the TPMS control unit 20P connector (see step  3 ).
  14. Check for continuity between TPMS control unit 20P connector terminals and ECM/PCM connector A (44P) terminals individually (see table).
    CONNECTOR TERMINAL REFERENCE CHART

    Terminal Name TPMS Control Unit 20P Connector Terminal ECM/PCM Connector A (44P) Terminal
    F-CAN L No. 20 No. 37
    F-CAN H No. 9 No. 36
    Fig 1: Checking Continuity Between TPMS Control Unit 20P Connector Terminals And ECM/PCM Connector A (44P) Terminals
    G06953086Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.

    Is there continuity? 

    YES  -Check for loose terminals and poor connections at the TPMS control unit and G502. If necessary, substitute a known-good TPMS control unit (see TPMS CONTROL UNIT REPLACEMENT  ), and recheck.

    NO  -Repair an open in the wire between the TPMS control unit and the ECM/PCM.