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Vehicle position icon constantly leaves road, moves erratically, or is displayed very far from actual vehicle position

NOTE:
  • Check the vehicle battery condition first (see 12 VOLT BATTERY TEST ).
  • Check that the GPS antenna is plugged in.
  • This is not the same condition as when driving off-road (or on a fire or logging road). This condition is caused by a loss of map matching from a bad sensor input. Check for aftermarket metallic window tinting or other objects that can block the GPS signal. Always do the Map Matching (see MAP MATCHING  ) before proceeding with the troubleshooting.
  • Make sure that the correct navigation DVD color and version are installed.
  • Inspect the navigation DVD for dirt or damage.
  • Check any official Honda service website for more service information about the navigation system.
  • Check the GPS signal reception in an open area.
  1. Check the GPS icon on the navigation screen.

    Is the GPS icon white? 

    YES  -Do the troubleshooting for GPS icon is white or not shown troubleshooting (see GPS ICON IS WHITE OR NOT SHOWN  ).

    NO  -Go to step  2.

  2. Go into the System Diagnostic Mode, and use the Yaw Rate test (see YAW RATE  ) to check the audio-navigation unit internal yaw rate sensor.

    Is the yaw rate sensor OK? 

    YES  -The condition may be normal. Check to see if the condition occurs in the same place in a known-good vehicle with the same navigation software version. If it does, the problem could be in the database. Go to step  3.

    NO  -Replace the audio-navigation unit (see AUDIO-NAVIGATION UNIT REMOVAL/INSTALLATION  ).

  3. Go into the System Diagnostic Mode, and use the Car Status test (see CAR STATUS  ) to check the VSP signal.
  4. Drive the vehicle, and watch the VSP signal.

    Does the VSP signal change from [0] when stopped to [1] when the vehicle is moving? 

    YES  -Condition may be normal. Check to see if the condition occurs in the same place in a known-good vehicle. If it does, the condition could be in the database. Go to step  5.

    NO  -Go to step  6.

  5. Substitute a known-good audio-navigation unit (see AUDIO-NAVIGATION UNIT REMOVAL/INSTALLATION  ), and check to see if the problem occurs in the same place.

    Does the problem occur in the same place? 

    YES  -The problem is in the database and should be considered a characteristic of the system. Report the problem according to the navigation manual under Reporting Errors and look for improvements in future databases.

    NO  -Replace the audio-navigation unit (see AUDIO-NAVIGATION UNIT REMOVAL/INSTALLATION  ).

  6. Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
  7. Remove the audio-navigation unit (see AUDIO-NAVIGATION UNIT REMOVAL/INSTALLATION  ), and disconnect audio-navigation unit connector A (24P).
    NOTE:
    • Eject all the discs before removing the audio-navigation unit to prevent damaging the CD player's load mechanism.
    • Remove the PC card before removing the audio-navigation unit.
  8. Jump the SCS line with the HDS.
  9. Disconnect ECM/PCM connector A (44P).
  10. Check for continuity between audio-navigation unit connector A (24P) terminal No. 23 and body ground.
    Fig 1: Checking Continuity Between Audio-Navigation Unit Connector A (24P) Terminal No. 23 And Body Ground
    G06954445Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.

    Is there continuity? 

    YES  -Repair a short to body ground in the wire between the audio-navigation unit connector A (24P) and the ECM/PCM connector terminal A (44P).

    NO  -Go to step  11.

  11. Check for continuity between audio-navigation unit connector A (24P) terminal No. 23 and ECM/PCM connector A (44P) terminal No. 29.
    Fig 2: Checking Continuity Between Audio-Navigation Unit Connector A (24P) Terminal No. 23 And ECM/PCM Connector A (44P) Terminal No. 29
    G06954446Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.

    Is there continuity? 

    YES  -Substitute a known-good ECM/PCM (see SUBSTITUTING THE ECM/PCM ), and recheck. If the symptom/indication goes away, replace the original ECM/PCM (see ECM/PCM REPLACEMENT ).

    NO  -Repair an open in the wire between the audio-navigation unit connector A (24P) and the ECM/PCM connector terminal A (44P).