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DTC B2980 or DTC indicator M and AUTO: A Short in the A/C Pressure Sensor Circuit

  1. Clear the DTCs with the HDS.
  2. Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0), and then back to ON (II).
  3. Do the Self-Diagnostic Function with the HDS (see HOW TO USE THE SELF-DIAGNOSTIC FUNCTION WITH THE HDS  ) or the climate control unit (see HOW TO USE THE CLIMATE CONTROL UNIT SELF-DIAGNOSTIC FUNCTION WITHOUT THE HDS  ).
  4. Check for DTCs.

    Is DTC B2980 or M and AUTO indicated? 

    YES  -Go to step 5.

    NO  -Intermittent failure. Check for loose wires or poor connections on the A/C pressure sensor circuit.

  5. Check for DTCs.

    Are these DTCs also present; B121D or A and WINDSHIELD DEFROST, and/or B1234 or C and WINDSHIELD DEFROST, and/or B1237 or F and WINDSHIELD DEFROST, and/or B2968 or P and AUTO? 

    YES  -Go to step  16.

    NO  -Go to step 6.

  6. Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
  7. Disconnect the A/C pressure sensor 3P connector.
  8. Disconnect climate control unit connector A (28P).
  9. Check for continuity between body ground and climate control unit connector A (28P) terminal No. 23.
    Fig 1: Checking Continuity Between Body Ground And Climate Control Unit Connector Terminal
    G06968363Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.

    Is there continuity? 

    YES  -Repair a short to body ground in the wire between the climate control unit and the A/C pressure sensor.

    NO  -Go to step 10.

  10. Check for continuity between climate control unit connector A (28P) terminals No. 23 and No. 25.
    Fig 2: Checking Continuity Between Climate Control Unit Connector Terminals No. 23 And No. 25
    G06968364Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.

    Is there continuity? 

    YES  -Repair short in the wires.

    NO  -Go to step 11.

  11. Turn the ignition switch to ON (II), and measure the voltage between climate control unit connector A (28P) terminal No. 23 and body ground.
    Fig 3: Measuring Voltage Between Climate Control Unit Connector Terminal And Body Ground
    G06968365Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.

    Is there any voltage? 

    YES  -Repair a short to power in the wire between the climate control unit and the A/C pressure sensor. This short may also damage the climate control unit. Repair a short to power before replacing the climate control unit.

    NO  -Go to step 12.

  12. Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
  13. Reconnect climate control unit connector A (28P).
  14. Turn the ignition switch to ON (II).
  15. Measure the voltage between climate control unit connector A (28P) terminals No. 13 and No. 23, and climate control unit connector A (28P) terminals No. 13 and No. 25.
    Fig 4: Measuring Voltage Between Climate Control Unit Terminals And Climate Control Unit Connector Terminals
    G06968366Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.

    Is there about 5 V? 

    YES  -Replace the A/C pressure sensor.

    NO  -Check for loose wires or poor connections at climate control unit connector A (28P) and at the A/C pressure sensor 3P connector. If the connections are good, substitute a known-good climate control unit, and recheck. If the symptom/indication goes away, replace the original climate control unit (see CLIMATE CONTROL UNIT REMOVAL/INSTALLATION  ).

  16. Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0), and disconnect climate control unit connector A (28P).
  17. Disconnect these items:
    • Driver's air mix control motor
    • Passenger's air mix control motor
    • Humidity/in-car temperature sensor
    • A/C pressure sensor
  18. Check for continuity between climate control unit connector A (28P) terminal No. 25 and body ground.
    Fig 5: Checking Continuity Between Climate Control Unit Connector Terminal And Body Ground
    G06968367Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.

    Is there continuity? 

    YES  -Repair a short to body ground in the wire.

    NO  -Go to step 19.

  19. Turn the ignition switch to ON (II), and measure the voltage between the same terminal and body ground.
    Fig 6: Measuring Voltage Between Terminal And Body Ground
    G06968368Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.

    Is there any voltage? 

    YES  -Repair a short to power in the wire. This short may have also damaged the climate control unit. Repair a short to power before replacing the climate control unit.

    NO  -Go to step 20.

  20. Turn the ignition switch to LOCK (0).
  21. Reconnect climate control unit connector A (28P).
  22. Turn the ignition switch to ON (II), and measure the voltage between climate control unit connector A (28P) terminal No. 25 and body ground.
    Fig 7: Measuring Voltage Between Climate Control Unit Connector Terminal And Body Ground
    G06968369Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.

    Is there about 5 V? 

    YES  -Go to step 23.

    NO  -Check for a loose wire or poor connection at climate control unit connector A (28P). If the connection is good, substitute a known-good climate control unit and recheck. If the symptom/indication goes away, replace the original climate control unit (see CLIMATE CONTROL UNIT REMOVAL/INSTALLATION  ).

  23. While measuring the voltage between the same terminal and body ground, reconnect these items individually and note the voltage reading each time:
    • Driver's air mix control motor
    • Passenger's air mix control motor
    • Humidity/in-car temperature sensor
    • A/C pressure sensor
      Fig 8: Identifying Climate Control Unit Connector A (28P)
      G06968370Courtesy of AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC.

    Does the voltage remain at about 5 V? 

    YES  -Substitute a known-good climate control unit and recheck. If the symptom/indication goes away, replace the original climate control unit (see HVAC CONTROL UNIT INPUTS AND OUTPUTS ).

    NO  -Replace the component that caused the voltage drop.