Pinpoint Test F : DTC P0620, P065B

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NOTE: Make sure battery voltage is greater than 12.2 volts prior to and during this pinpoint test.

NOTE: Do not have a battery charger attached during vehicle testing.

F1 PERFORM INSPECTION AND VERIFICATION
- Perform Inspection and Verification .
Was an obvious cause for an observed or reported concern found?

Yes CORRECT the cause as necessary.

No GO to F2

F2 CHECK THE GENERATOR CONNECTIONS

Ignition OFF.

Disconnect all of the generator connectors and inspect for:
- corrosion (install new connector or terminals - clean module pins)
- damaged or bent pins - install new terminals/pins
- pushed-out pins - install new pins as necessary

Reconnect the generator connectors. Make sure they seat and latch correctly.

Measure and record:

Positive Lead	Measurement / Action	Negative Lead
Courtesy of FORD MOTOR COMPANY	Courtesy of FORD MOTOR COMPANY	Courtesy of FORD MOTOR COMPANY

Measure:

Positive Lead	Measurement / Action	Negative Lead
C102C-1	Courtesy of FORD MOTOR COMPANY	Ground

Is the voltage within 0.5 volt of the recorded battery voltage?

Yes

GO to F3

TIGHTEN or INSTALL a new generator B+ nut as needed. REFER to: Generator - 2.0L EcoBoost (184kW/250PS) - MI4 . VERIFY high current BJB fuse 8 (275A) is OK. If OK, REPAIR the circuit. If not OK, REFER to the OEM Electrical Wiring Diagram Introduction to identify the possible causes of the circuit short.

F3 CHECK THE VOLTAGE DROP IN THE GENERATOR B+ CIRCUIT

Start the engine.

With the engine running at idle, headlamps on and blower on high, measure:

Positive Lead	Measurement / Action	Negative Lead
C102C-1 (Connect the Positive voltmeter Lead to the alternator output B+)	Courtesy of FORD MOTOR COMPANY	(Connect the Negative voltmeter lead to the positive battery post)

Perform a wiggle test of the generator wiring and connections while measuring voltage drop.

Is the voltage drop less than 0.5 volt?

Yes

GO to F4

No	INSPECT and REPAIR any corrosion in the generator B+ circuit or positive battery cable connections.

F4 "A" SENSE CIRCUIT LOAD TEST

NOTE: The following step uses a test light to simulate normal circuit loads. Use only the test light recommended in the Special Tools table at the beginning of this article. To avoid connector terminal damage, use the Flex Probe Kit for the test light probe connection to the vehicle. Do not use the test light probe directly on any connector.

NOTE: This step puts a load on the "A" sense circuit. If there are corroded or loose connections, loading the circuit may help show the fault. A 250-350 mA incandescent 12 volt test lamp is required for this step. This circuit cannot be loaded correctly using an LED-style test lamp.

Ignition OFF.

Disconnect Generator C102A.

Ignition ON.

Measure and record:

Positive Lead	Measurement / Action	Negative Lead
Courtesy of FORD MOTOR COMPANY	Courtesy of FORD MOTOR COMPANY	Courtesy of FORD MOTOR COMPANY

Install a test lamp between:

Positive Lead	Measurement / Action	Negative Lead
C102A-3	Courtesy of FORD MOTOR COMPANY	Ground

Perform a wiggle test on the generator wiring and measure:

Positive Lead	Measurement / Action	Negative Lead
C102A-3	Courtesy of FORD MOTOR COMPANY	Ground

Is the "A" sense voltage within +/-0.5 volt of the recorded battery voltage?

Yes

GO to F5

No	VERIFY the BJB fuse 55 (10A) is OK. If OK, REPAIR the circuit. If not OK, REFER to the OEM Electrical Wiring Diagram Introduction to identify the possible causes of the circuit short.

F5 CHECK THE GENERATOR COMMAND CIRCUIT FOR A SHORT TO VOLTAGE

Ignition OFF.

Disconnect PCM C1381B.

Ignition ON.

Perform a wiggle test on the generator wiring and measure:

Positive Lead	Measurement / Action	Negative Lead
C102A-2	Courtesy of FORD MOTOR COMPANY	Ground

Is any voltage present?

Yes	REPAIR the circuit.

GO to F6

F6 CHECK THE GENERATOR COMMAND CIRCUIT FOR A SHORT TO GROUND

Ignition OFF.

Perform a wiggle test on the generator wiring and measure:

Positive Lead	Measurement / Action	Negative Lead
C102A-2	Courtesy of FORD MOTOR COMPANY	Ground

Is the resistance greater than 10, 000 ohms?

Yes

GO to F7

No	REPAIR the circuit.

F7 CHECK THE GENERATOR COMMAND CIRCUIT FOR AN OPEN

Perform a wiggle test on the generator wiring and measure:

Positive Lead	Measurement / Action	Negative Lead
C1381B-59	Courtesy of FORD MOTOR COMPANY	C102A-2

Is the resistance less than 3 ohms?

Yes

GO to F8

No	REPAIR the circuit.

F8 COMPARE THE GENERATOR MONITOR (GENMON) AND GENERATOR COMMAND (GENCMD) PARAMETER IDENTIFICATIONS (PIDS)

Ignition OFF.

Connect PCM C1381B.

Connect a fused jumper wire:

Positive Lead	Measurement / Action	Negative Lead
C102A-1	Courtesy of FORD MOTOR COMPANY	C102A-2

Start the engine.

Using a diagnostic scan tool, view PCM Parameter Identifications (PIDs).

Monitor the PCM Parameter Identifications (PIDs) GENMON and GENCMD.

Perform a wiggle test of the generator wiring and connections.

Do the Parameter Identifications (PIDs) read within 5% of each other?

Yes	REMOVE the fused jumper wire. INSTALL a new generator. REFER to: Generator - 2.0L EcoBoost (184kW/250PS) - MI4 .

No	REMOVE the fused jumper wire. GO to F9

F9 CHECK FOR CORRECT PCM (POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE) OPERATION

Ignition OFF.

Disconnect and inspect all PCM connectors.

Repair:
- corrosion (install new connector or terminals - clean module pins)
- damaged or bent pins - install new terminals/pins
- pushed-out pins - install new pins as necessary

Connect all connectors. Make sure they seat and latch correctly.

Operate the system and determine if the concern is still present.

Is the concern still present?

Yes	CHECK OASIS for any applicable Technical Service Bulletins (TSBs). If a TSB exists for this concern, DISCONTINUE this test and FOLLOW the TSB instructions. If no Technical Service Bulletins (TSBs) address this concern, refer to PCM Guided Routine Testing .

No	The system is operating correctly at this time. The concern may have been caused by module connections. ADDRESS the root cause of any connector or pin issues.