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Diagnostic Test

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  1. CHECK FOR AN ACTIVE DTC 
    NOTE:

    Check the Jump Post Box and PDC for any open fuses, If open fuses are present replace the fuses and check the circuit for faults before continuing.

    NOTE:

    If there are any Starter Relay Control circuit DTCs present in the PCM or BCM, diagnose and repair those DTCs before continuing with this test procedure.

    1. Attempt to perform a key start of the engine.
    2. With the scan tool, read DTCs and record on the repair order.

      Is the DTC active or pending?

      Yes 

      • Go To  2

      No 

  2. CHECK THE BATTERY SUPPLY TO STARTER RELAY 2 
    1. Disconnect the Starter Relay 2.
    2. Attempted to perform a key start of the engine.
    3. Measure the voltage on the Starter Relay 1 supply to the Starter Relay 2 connector (terminal 30).

      Is the voltage about equal to Battery voltage?

      Yes 

      • Go To  4

      No 

      • Go To  3
  3. STARTER RELAY 1 
    1. Turn the ignition off.
    2. Reconnect the Starter Relay 2.
    3. Replace Starter Relay 1 with a known good relay.
    4. Turn the ignition on.
    5. With the scan tool, erase DTCs.
    6. Attempt to perform a key start of the engine.
    7. With the scan tool, read DTCs.

      Did the DTC return as active or pending?

      Yes 

      • Go To  4

      No 

  4. STARTER RELAY 2 
    1. Turn the ignition off.
    2. Reconnect Starter Relay 1.
    3. Replace Starter Relay 2 with a known good relay.
    4. Turn the ignition on.
    5. With the scan tool, erase DTCs.
    6. Attempt to perform a key start of the engine.
    7. With the scan tool, read DTCs.

      Did the DTC return as active or pending?

      Yes 

      • Go To  5

      No 

  5. CHECK THE (T753) IGNITION CRANK SENSE FEED CIRCUIT FOR AN OPEN/HIGH RESISTANCE 
    1. Reconnect Starter Relay 2.
    2. Disconnect the PDC C3 harness connector.
    3. Disconnect the PCM C2 harness connector.
    4. Measure the resistance of the (T753) Ignition Crank Sense Feed circuit between the PDC C3 harness connector and the PCM C2 harness connector.

      Is the resistance below 3.0 Ohms?

      Yes 

      • Go To  6

      No 

      • Repair the (T753) Ignition Crank Sense circuit for an open or high resistance.
      • Perform the POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST. Refer to POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST .
  6. CHECK THE (T753) IGNITION CRANK SENSE CIRCUIT FOR A SHORT TO GROUND 
    1. Check for continuity between ground and the (T753) Ignition Crank Sense Feed circuit at the PDC C3 harness connector.

      Is there continuity between ground and the (T753) Ignition Crank Sense Feed circuit?

      Yes 

      • Repair the (T753) Ignition Crank Sense Feed circuit for a short to ground.
      • Perform the POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST. Refer to POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST .

      No 

      • Go To  7
  7. CHECK THE STARTER SOLENOID FEED CIRCUIT BETWEEN STARTER RELAY 2 AND THE PDC CONNECTOR 
    1. Reconnect the PCM C2 harness connector.
    2. Remove Starter Relay 2 from the PDC.
    3. Measure the resistance between the Starter Relay 2 connector (terminal 87) and the (T753) Ignition Crank Sense circuit at the PDC C3 (terminal 40 & 42) harness connector.

      Is the resistance below 3.0 Ohms?

      Yes 

      • Go To  8

      No 

      • Again check all of the fuses for an open. If a fuse is open, replace the fuse and retest.
  8. CHECK RELATED PCM AND COMPONENT CONNECTIONS 
    1. Perform any Service Bulletins that apply.
    2. Disconnect all PCM harness connectors.
    3. Disconnect all related in-line harness connections (if equipped).
    4. Disconnect the related component harness connectors.
    5. Inspect harness connectors, component connectors, and all male and female terminals for the following conditions:
      • Proper connector installation.
      • Damaged connector locks.
      • Corrosion.
      • Other signs of water intrusion.
      • Weather seal damage (if equipped).
      • Bent terminals.
      • Overheating due to a poor connection (terminal may be discolored due to excessive current draw).
      • Terminals that have been pushed back into the connector cavity.
      • Check for spread terminals and verify proper terminal tension.

      Repair any conditions that are found.

    6. Reconnect all PCM harness connectors. Be certain that all harness connectors are fully seated and the connector locks are fully engaged.
    7. Reconnect all in-line harness connectors (if equipped). Be certain that all connectors are fully seated and the connector locks are fully engaged.
    8. Reconnect all related component harness connectors. Be certain that all connectors are fully seated and the connector locks are fully engaged.
    9. With the scan tool, erase DTCs.
    10. Test drive or operate the vehicle in accordance with the when monitored and set conditions.
    11. With the scan tool, read DTCs.

      Did the DTC return?

      Yes 

      No