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Diagnostic Test

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  1. ACTIVE DTC 
    1. Ignition on, engine not running.
    2. With the scan tool, select View the PCM DTCs.

      Is the DTC Active at this time?

      Yes 

      • Go To  2

      No 

      • Go To  7
  2. CHECK FOR OTHER DTCS 
    1. Refer to the recorded DTCs.
      NOTE:

      An external Radio-Frequency Identification (RFID) key (and/or pass/radio key), such as one used to gain access to a 24 hour gym, can cause this DTC to set and create a no start condition. Inspect the customer's key chain for any type of RFID key. If one is not found, question the customer to see if a spare key chain has this RFID key on it or if it was removed from the original key chain before the vehicle was released for service. If a RFID key is present, remove the ignition key from the vehicle and remove the RFID key from the key chain. For GPEC equipped vehicles, disconnect the battery and wait a minimum of five minutes, reconnect and attempt to start the vehicle. For NCG equipped vehicles, turn the ignition on a minimum for one hour and then attempt to start the vehicle, If the vehicle does not start, continue with the diagnostic test.

      Are there any Can C or Can B failure DTCs active or pending?

      Yes 

      No 

      • Go To  3
  3. CHECK FOR LOSS OF COMMUNICATION WITH RF HUB 
    1. With the scan tool, attempt to communicate with the RF Hub.

      Can the scan tool communicate with the RF Hub?

      Yes 

      • Go To  4

      No 

  4. CHECK THE RADIO FREQUENCY HUB (RF HUB) MODULE FOR DTCs 
    1. With the scan tool, check for RF Hub DTCs.

      Are any DTCs present in the RF Hub?

      Yes 

      No 

      • Go To  5
  5. CHECK FOR PROPER VIN PROGRAMMED INTO THE PCM 
    1. With the scan tool, display the VIN that is programmed in the PCM.

      Is the correct VIN programmed into the PCM?

      Yes 

      • Go To  6

      No 

  6. CHECK THE RF HUB FOR PROPER OPERATION 
    1. Turn the ignition off.
      NOTE:

      You must obtain the secret key pin number.

    2. Replace and program the RF Hub in accordance with the Service Information.
      NOTE:

      If this vehicle is equipped with a Steering Column Lock Module, it must be replaced along with the RF Hub.

    3. Ignition on, engine not running.
    4. With the scan tool, erase all RF Hub and PCM DTCs.
    5. Attempt to start and idle the engine.
    6. With the scan tool, read the PCM DTCs.

      Does the scan tool display this code?

      Yes 

      • Go To  8

      No 

      • Test Complete.
  7. IGNITION KEY 
    NOTE:

    You must obtain the secret key pin number.

    NOTE:

    This DTC could have been set if the RF Hub harness connector was disconnected or if the RF Hub was replaced recently.

    NOTE:

    All keys that the customer uses for this vehicle must be tested to verify they are operating properly.

    1. Ignition on, engine not running.
    2. Verify the correct VIN is programmed into the PCM and RF Hub.
    3. Turn the ignition off.
    4. With each customer key turn the ignition key on and crank the engine to start.
    5. With the scan tool, read the PCM DTCs.

      Did the DTC P0513 become active with any of the ignition keys?

      Yes 

      No 

      • Test Complete.
        NOTE:

        If this DTC cannot be reset, it could have been an actual theft attempt.

  8. CHECK RELATED HARNESS CONNECTIONS 
    1. Disconnect all PCM harness connectors.
    2. Disconnect all related in-line harness connections (if equipped).
    3. Disconnect the related component harness connectors.
    4. Inspect harness connectors, component connectors, and all male and female terminals for the following conditions:
      • Proper connector installation.
      • Damaged connector locks.
      • Corrosion.
      • Other signs of water intrusion.
      • Weather seal damage (if equipped).
      • Bent terminals.
      • Overheating due to a poor connection (terminal may be discolored due to excessive current draw).
      • Terminals that have been pushed back into the connector cavity.
      • Check for spread terminals and verify proper terminal tension.

      Repair any conditions that are found.

    5. Connect all PCM harness connectors. Be certain that all harness connectors are fully seated and the connector locks are fully engaged.
    6. Connect all in-line harness connectors (if equipped). Be certain that all connectors are fully seated and the connector locks are fully engaged.
    7. Connect all related component harness connectors. Be certain that all connectors are fully seated and the connector locks are fully engaged.
    8. With the scan tool, erase DTCs.
    9. Test drive or operate the vehicle in accordance with the when monitored and set conditions.
    10. With the scan tool, read DTCs.

      Did the DTC return?

      Yes 

      No 

      • The wiring or poor connection problem has been repaired.
      • Perform the POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST. Refer to POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST .