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Diagnostic Test

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Possible Causes 
(A910/A118) FUSED B(+) CIRCUITS OPEN OR SHORTED
(Z915) GROUND CIRCUITS OPEN
(F202) IGNITION RUN/START CONTROL OUTPUT CIRCUIT OPEN OR SHORTED
(F1) IGNITION SWITCH OUTPUT (OFF-RUN-START) CIRCUIT OPEN OR SHORTED
(D65) CAN C BUS (+) CIRCUIT OPEN
(D64) CAN C BUS (-) CIRCUIT OPEN
POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE (PCM)


  1. TEST FOR INTERMITTENT CONDITION 
    NOTE:

    Check for any TSB(s) related to the condition. If a TSB applies, perform the procedure outlined in the TSB before continuing.

    1. Turn the ignition on.
      NOTE:

      Make sure the IOD fuse is installed and battery voltage is between 10.0 and 16.0 volts.

    2. Using the scan tool, select ECU View.
      NOTE:

      A red "X" will be next to the module that is not communicating, indicating that the module is not active on the Bus network. A green check indicates that the module is active on the Bus network.

      NOTE:

      Check the TIPM for any active CAN C hardware DTCs, perform DTC before proceeding.

      Does the scan tool display a red "X" next to the module?

      Yes 

      • Go To  2.

      No 

      • Test complete, the condition or conditions that originally set this DTC are not present at this time. Using the wiring diagrams as a guide, check all related splices and connectors for signs of water intrusion, corrosion, pushed out or bent terminals, and correct pin tension.
  2. (A910/A118) FUSED B(+) CIRCUITS OPEN OR SHORTED 
    Fig 1: Using 12-Volt Test Light To Check Fused B (+) Circuits
    GC0137495Courtesy of CHRYSLER LLC
    1. Turn the ignition off.
    2. Disconnect the PCM C2 harness connector.
    3. Using a 12-volt test light connected to ground, check the (A910/A118) Fused B(+) circuits.

      Does the test light illuminate brightly for each circuit?

      Yes 

      • Go To  3.

      No 

  3. (Z915) GROUND CIRCUITS OPEN 
    Fig 2: Using 12-Volt Test Light To Check Ground Circuits
    GC0137496Courtesy of CHRYSLER LLC
    1. Using a 12-volt test light connected to 12-volts, check the (Z915) Ground circuits.

      Does the test light illuminate brightly for each circuit?

      Yes 

      • Go To  4.

      No 

  4. (F202) IGNITION RUN/START CONTROL OUTPUT CIRCUIT OPEN OR SHORTED 
    Fig 3: Using 12-Volt Test Light To Check Ignition Run/Start Control Output Circuit
    GC0137497Courtesy of CHRYSLER LLC
    1. Turn the ignition on.
    2. Using a 12-volt test light connected to ground, check the (F202) Ignition Run/Start Control Output circuit.

      Does the test light illuminate brightly?

      Yes 

      • Go To  5.

      No 

      • Repair the open or short in the (F202) Ignition Run/Start Control Output circuit.
      • Perform the POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST - 6.7L. Refer to POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST - 6.7L .
  5. (F1) IGNITION SWITCH OUTPUT (OFF-RUN-START) CIRCUIT OPEN OR SHORTED 
    Fig 4: Using 12-Volt Test Light To Check Ignition Switch Output (Off-Run-Start) Circuit
    GC0137498Courtesy of CHRYSLER LLC
    1. Using a 12-volt test light connected to ground, check the (F1) Ignition Switch Output (Off-Run-Start) circuit.

      Does the test light illuminate brightly?

      Yes 

      • Go To  6.

      No 

      • Repair the open or short in the (F1) Ignition Switch Output (Off-Run-Start) circuit.
      • Perform the POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST - 6.7L. Refer to POWERTRAIN VERIFICATION TEST - 6.7L .
  6. (D65) CAN C BUS (+) CIRCUIT OPEN 
    Fig 5: Measuring Resistance Of CAN C Bus (+) Circuit Between TIPM C1 Harness Connector & PCM C2 Harness Connector
    GC0137499Courtesy of CHRYSLER LLC
    1. Turn the ignition off.
    2. Disconnect the TIPM C1 harness connector.
    3. Measure the resistance of the (D65) CAN C Bus (+) circuit between the TIPM C1 harness connector and the PCM C2 harness connector.

      Is resistance below 5.0 Ohms?

      Yes 

      • Go To  7.

      No 

  7. (D64) CAN C BUS (-) CIRCUIT OPEN 
    Fig 6: Measuring Resistance Of CAN C Bus (-) Circuit Between TIPM C1 Harness Connector & PCM C2 Harness Connector
    GC0137500Courtesy of CHRYSLER LLC
    1. Measure the resistance of the (D64) CAN C Bus (-) circuit between the TIPM C1 harness connector and the PCM C2 harness connector.

      Is resistance below 5.0 Ohms?

      Yes 

      No