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Diagnostic Test

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Possible Causes 
(A104) FUSED B(+) CIRCUIT OPEN OR SHORTED
(Z908) GROUND CIRCUIT OPEN
(F946) FUSED IGNITION RUN/START CONTROL OUTPUT CIRCUIT OPEN OR SHORTED
(D65) CAN C BUS (+) CIRCUIT OPEN
(D64) CAN C BUS (-) CIRCUIT OPEN
DRIVETRAIN CONTROL MODULE


  1. TEST FOR INTERMITTENT CONDITION 
    1. Turn the ignition on.
      NOTE:

      Make sure the IOD fuse is installed and battery voltage is between 10.0 and 16.0 volts.

    2. Using the scan tool, select ECU view.
      NOTE:

      A red "X" will be next to the module that is not communicating, indicating that the module is not active on the Bus network. A green check indicates that the module is active on the Bus network.

      NOTE:

      Check the TIPM for any active CAN C hardware DTCs, perform DTC before proceeding.

      Does the scan tool display a red "X" next to the module?

      Yes 

      • Go To  2.

      No 

      • The no response condition is not present at this time. Using the wiring diagram/schematic as a guide, inspect the wiring for chafed, pierced, pinched and partially broken wires and the wiring harness connectors for broken, bent, pushed out and corroded terminals.
  2. (A104) FUSED B(+) CIRCUIT OPEN OR SHORTED 
    Fig 1: Using 12-volt Test Light Connected To Ground To Check Fused B(+) Circuit
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    1. Turn the ignition off.
    2. Disconnect the Drivetrain Control Module C1 and C2 harness connectors.
    3. Using a 12-volt test light connected to ground, check the (A104) Fused B(+) circuit.

      Does the test light illuminate brightly?

      Yes 

      • Go To  3.

      No 

      • Repair the (A104) Fused B(+) circuit for an open or short.
      • Perform the DTCM VERIFICATION TEST. Refer to DTCM VERIFICATION TEST .
  3. (Z908) GROUND CIRCUIT OPEN 
    Fig 2: Using 12-volt Test Light Connected To 12-volts To Check Ground Circuit
    GC0091310Courtesy of CHRYSLER LLC
    1. Using a 12-volt test light connected to 12-volts, check the (Z908) Ground circuit.

      Does the test light illuminate brightly for each circuit?

      Yes 

      • Go To  4.

      No 

      • Repair the (Z908) ground circuit for an open.
      • Perform the DTCM VERIFICATION TEST. Refer to DTCM VERIFICATION TEST .
  4. (F946) FUSED IGNITION RUN/START CONTROL OUTPUT CIRCUIT OPEN OR SHORTED 
    Fig 3: Using 12-volt Test Light Connected To Ground To Check Fused Ignition Run/Start Control Output Circuit
    GC0091311Courtesy of CHRYSLER LLC
    1. Turn the ignition on.
    2. Using a 12-volt test light connected to ground, check the (F946) Fused Ignition Run/Start Control Output circuit.

      Does the test light illuminate brightly?

      Yes 

      • Go To  5.

      No 

      • Repair the (F946) Fused Ignition Run/Start Control Output circuit for an open or short.
      • Perform the DTCM VERIFICATION TEST. Refer to DTCM VERIFICATION TEST .
  5. (D65) CAN C BUS (+) CIRCUIT OPEN 
    Fig 4: Measuring Resistance Of CAN C Bus (+) Circuit Between TIPM Connector And DTCM Connector
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    1. Turn the ignition off.
    2. Disconnect the TIPM C1 harness connector.
    3. Measure the resistance of the (D65) CAN C Bus (+) circuit between the TIPM C1 connector and the DTCM C1 connector.

      Is resistance below 5.0 Ohms?

      Yes 

      • Go To  6.

      No 

      • Repair the (D65) CAN C Bus (+) circuit for an open.
      • Perform the DTCM VERIFICATION TEST. Refer to DTCM VERIFICATION TEST .
  6. (D64) CAN C BUS (-) CIRCUIT OPEN 
    Fig 5: Measuring Resistance Of CAN C Bus (-) Circuit Between TIPM Connector And DTCM Connector
    GC0091313Courtesy of CHRYSLER LLC
    1. Measure the resistance of the (D64) CAN C Bus (-) circuit between the TIPM C1 connector and the DTCM C1 connector.

      Is resistance below 5.0 Ohms?

      Yes 

      • Replace the Drivetrain Control Module in accordance with the Service Information.
      • Perform the DTCM VERIFICATION TEST. Refer to DTCM VERIFICATION TEST .

      No 

      • Repair the (D64) CAN C Bus (-) circuit for an open.
      • Perform the DTCM VERIFICATION TEST. Refer to DTCM VERIFICATION TEST .