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Diagnostic Test

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  1. CHECK FOR OTHER DTCS 
    1. With the scan tool, read all DTCs and record on the repair order

      Are any Loss of Prime, TCM Power Control Circuit, and or TCM Power Input DTCs set?

      Yes 

      • Repair Loss of Prime, TCM Power Control Circuit, and or TCM Power Input DTCs. If DTC P0944 is set, perform that diagnostic procedure first. Refer to DIAGNOSTIC CODE INDEX .

      No 

      • Go To  2
  2. CHECK FOR DTC P0755 
    1. With the scan tool, read TCM DTCs.

      Is DTC P0755 set?

      Yes 

      No 

      • Go To  3
  3. CHECK FOR OTHER TCM DTCS 
    1. With the scan tool, read TCM DTCs.

      Are DTCs P0729, P0732, and or P0846 set?

      Yes 

      • Go To  13

      No 

      • Go To  4
  4. READ AND RECORD DTCS AND ENVIRONMENTAL DATA - ERASE DTCS AND CHECK FOR THE DTC TO RETURN 
    1. With the scan tool, read DTCs in all Electronic Control Units (ECUs) and record on the repair order.
    2. For future reference, with the scan tool, run and save a vehicle Scan Report and all related recorded data.
    3. With the scan tool, erase all DTCs.
    4. Turn the ignition off for a minimum of 10.0 seconds.
    5. Turn the ignition on.
    6. Using the When Monitored and Set Conditions above and recorded data, operate the vehicle in the conditions that set the DTC.
    7. With the scan tool, read DTCs.

    Did the DTC return?

    Yes 

    • Go To  5

    No 

  5. CHECK LINE PRESSURE IN EACH GEAR 
    1. Start the engine.
    2. Allow the Transmission temperature to reach 82° C (180° F).
    3. Firmly apply the brakes.
    4. Move the shift lever to each gear position, pausing momentarily in each position to record the line pressure reading on the scan tool. Allow the pressure to stabilize for at least five seconds in each range.

      Did the line pressure read between 585 and 655 kPa (85 and 95 psi) in each position?

      Yes 

      • Go To  6

      No 

      • Go To  11
  6. CHECK THE LINE PRESSURE SENSOR CONNECTION 
    1. Turn the ignition on.
    2. With the scan tool, read the Line Pressure while firmly pushing the Transmission Line Pressure Sensor connector inwards towards the Transmission.

      Did the Line Pressure reading on the scan tool change to about or 0.5 volts when the connector was pushed inward?

      Yes 

      • Disconnect and properly reconnect the Line Pressure Sensor connector. Inspect the terminals and repair as necessary.
      • Perform the TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST. Refer to TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST .

      No 

      • Go To  7
  7. ISOLATE AND CHECK THE (F856) 5-VOLT SUPPLY CIRCUIT FOR AN OPEN/HIGH RESISTANCE 
    CAUTION:

    Do not probe the PCM harness connectors. Probing the PCM harness connectors will damage the PCM terminals resulting in poor terminal to pin connection. Install the GPEC Diagnostic Adaptor to perform the diagnosis.

    1. Important:  The GPEC Diagnostic Adapter can add up to 1.5 Ohms of resistance to the circuit.
    2. Connect the (special tool #10436, Adapter, GPEC Diagnostic) to the appropriate PCM harness connector.
      1. The ignition must be off when checking the continuity of a circuit.
      2. Isolate the circuit by disconnecting the Electronic Control Unit (ECU) and the component harness connector containing the circuit being tested. Note:  Use the wiring diagram as a guide to follow the path of the circuit.
      3. Before measuring the resistance of any circuit, first measure the resistance between the two leads of the DVOM. Note:  The meter leads can add resistance to the measurement value.
      4. Connect one lead of the DVOM to the circuit being tested at the component harness connector.
      5. Connect the other lead to the circuit being tested at the GPEC Diagnostic Adapter and measure the resistance of the circuit.

      Is the resistance below 3.0 Ohms?

      Yes 

      • Go To  8

      No 

  8. ISOLATE AND CHECK THE (F856) 5-VOLT SUPPLY CIRCUIT FOR A SHORT TO GROUND 
    CAUTION:

    Do not probe the PCM harness connectors. Probing the PCM harness connectors will damage the PCM terminals resulting in poor terminal to pin connection. Install the GPEC Diagnostic Adaptor to perform the diagnosis.

    1. The ignition must be off when checking a circuit for continuity to ground.
    2. Isolate the circuit by disconnecting the Electronic Control Unit (ECU) and every component harness connector containing the circuit being tested. Note:  Use the wiring diagram as a guide to follow the path of the circuit.
    3. Connect the negative lead of the DVOM to a known good ground.
    4. With the positive lead of the DVOM, probe the circuit being tested at the component harness connector and check for continuity between the circuit and ground.
    NOTE:

    There should be no continuity between ground and the circuit being tested.

    Is there continuity between ground and the circuit being tested?

    Yes 

    • Repair the circuit for a short to ground. Use the wiring diagram as a guide to trace the circuit and look for any in-line connectors to help isolate the location of the short.
    • Perform the TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST. Refer to TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST .

    No 

    • Go To  9
  9. REPLACE THE LINE PRESSURE SENSOR AND RETEST FOR DTCS 
    1. Replace Line Pressure Sensor in accordance with the Service Information. Refer to SENSOR, VARIABLE LINE PRESSURE, REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION .
    2. Connect all harness connectors.
    3. Turn the ignition on.
    4. With the scan tool, erase DTCs.
    5. Using the Environmental Data or When Monitored Conditions above, operate the vehicle within the conditions that set the DTC.
    6. With the scan tool, read DTCs.

    Did the DTC return?

    Yes 

    • Go To  10

    No 

  10. CHECK RELATED HARNESS CONNECTIONS 
    1. Disconnect all PCM harness connectors.
    2. Disconnect the (special tool #10436, Adapter, GPEC Diagnostic) and remove from the vehicle.
    3. Disconnect all related in-line harness connections (if equipped).
    4. Disconnect the related component harness connectors.
    5. Inspect harness connectors, component connectors, and all male and female terminals for the following conditions:
      • Proper connector installation.
      • Damaged connector locks.
      • Corrosion.
      • Other signs of water intrusion.
      • Weather seal damage (if equipped).
      • Bent terminals.
      • Overheating due to a poor connection (terminal may be discolored due to excessive current draw).
      • Terminals that have been pushed back into the connector cavity.
      • Perform a terminal drag test on each connector terminal to verify proper terminal tension.

      Repair any conditions that are found.

    6. Reconnect all PCM harness connectors. Be certain that all harness connectors are fully seated and the connector locks are fully engaged.
    7. Reconnect all in-line harness connectors (if equipped). Be certain that all connectors are fully seated and the connector locks are fully engaged.
    8. Reconnect all related component harness connectors. Be certain that all connectors are fully seated and the connector locks are fully engaged.
    9. With the scan tool, erase DTCs.
    10. Using the recorded Event and Environmental Data, along with the When Monitored and Set Conditions above, operate the vehicle in the conditions that set the DTC.
    11. With the scan tool, read PCM DTCs.

      Did the DTC return?

      Yes 

      NOTE:

      This transmission is equipped with a solenoid for the Torque Converter Clutch (TCC) that is a Variable Force Solenoid (VFS) with close tolerance Pressure/Inductance (PI) curve. If replacing the PCM, it is necessary to transfer the PI data from the old PCM to the new PCM using the scan tool. If the PCM being replaced is non-responsive, the PI data can be retrieved from a 2-D bar code on the exterior of the transmission case. This is done with the scan tool using the "Program Torque Converter Solenoid PI Curve" routine.

      Early build transmissions will have the 2-D barcode label on the right side of the transmission case. Late build transmissions will have the label attached to a machined pad at the top of the case, near the rear of the transmission. The data must be entered into the scan tool in order to upload the information to the PCM. In the event that the exterior BAR code is missing, or it is suspected that the valve body or TCC solenoid has been replaced without uploading the correct PI data into an existing PCM, the transmission oil pan must be removed to retrieve the information from the 2-D bar code on the body of the TCC solenoid.

      No 

  11. COMPARE SCAN TOOL LINE PRESSURE READING TO PRESSURE GAUGE READING 
    1. Turn the ignition off.
    2. Connect the Pressure Test Adapter (special tool #8259, Adapter, Pressure Test) and the 0-300 psi Test Gauge (special tool #C-3293-SP, Gauge, Pressure 0-300 P.S.I.). Refer to the Service Information for proper installation procedure.
      CAUTION:

      Apply the parking brake.

    3. Start the engine.
    4. In the following steps, compare the scan tool Line Pressure to the Pressure Gauge readings in each gear.
      CAUTION:

      Do not overheat the transmission.

    5. With the gear selector in park, raise the engine speed to 1, 500 RPM and compare line pressure readings.
    6. Firmly apply the brakes, move the gear selector into reverse, raise the engine speed to 1, 500 RPM and compare the line pressure readings.
    7. Firmly apply the brakes, move the gear selector into drive, raise the engine speed to 1, 500 RPM and compare the line pressure readings.

      Does the scan tool Line Pressure reading match the Pressure Gauge reading ± 10 psi for each test?

      Yes 

      • Go To  12

      No 

  12. CHECK (T147) 2C PRESSURE SIGNAL CIRCUIT 
    1. Turn the ignition off.
    2. Remove the Line Pressure Adapter (special tool #8259, Adapter, Pressure Test) and 0-300 psi Test Gauge (special tool #C-3293-SP, Gauge, Pressure 0-300 P.S.I.).
    3. Disconnect the PCM C2 harness connector.
      CAUTION:

      Do not probe the PCM harness connectors. Probing the PCM harness connectors will damage the PCM terminals resulting in poor terminal to pin connection. Install the GPEC Diagnostic Adaptor to perform the diagnosis.

    4. Connect the (special tool #10436, Adapter, GPEC Diagnostic) to the appropriate PCM harness connector.
    5. Ground the (T147) 2C Pressure Signal at the GPEC Diagnostic Adapter.
    6. Turn the ignition on.
    7. With the scan tool, read the 2C Pressure Switch state while wiggling the wire harness and connectors that pertain to the 2C Pressure Switch.

      Did the 2C Pressure Switch state change to CLOSED and remain CLOSED while wiggling the wires?

      Yes 

      • Go To  13

      No 

      • Go To  15
  13. CHECK FOR EXCESSIVE DEBRIS 
    1. Turn the ignition off.
    2. Remove and inspect the Transmission Oil Pan in accordance with the Service Information.

      Does the Transmission Oil Pan contain excessive debris or contamination?

      Yes 

      NOTE:

      This transmission is equipped with a solenoid for the Torque Converter Clutch (TCC) that is a Variable Force Solenoid (VFS) with close tolerance Pressure/Inductance (PI) curve. It is necessary to update the TCC solenoid PI data in the PCM when replacing the TCC solenoid, Valve Body or Transmission assembly. This is done with the scan tool using the "Program Torque Converter Solenoid PI Curve" routine. The PI data is located on a 2-D BAR code etched on the body of the TCC solenoid. The data must be entered into the scan tool in order to upload the information to the PCM.

      When replacing the TCC solenoid or Valve Body, obtain the PI data before installing the transmission oil pan. When replacing the transmission, the PI data can be obtained from a 2-D bar code on the exterior of the new transmission. Early build transmissions will have the 2-D barcode label on the right side of the transmission case. Late build transmissions will have the label attached to a machined pad at the top of the case, near the rear of the transmission. If it is suspected that the valve body or TCC VFS has been replaced without uploading the correct PI data into the PCM, the transmission oil pan must be removed to retrieve the information from the 2-D bar code on the body of the TCC solenoid.

      • Repair the cause of the excessive debris in the Transmission Oil Pan.
      • If the Valve Body or the TCC VFS solenoid is replaced, remove the external TCC VFS bar code label from the transmission case.
      • Perform the TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST. Refer to TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST .

      No 

      • Go To  14
  14. CHECK THE 2C HYDRAULIC CLUTCH CIRCUIT 
    1. Remove the Valve Body and air check the 2C clutch hydraulic circuit in the 2C/4C clutch retainer for leakage in accordance with the Service Information.
      NOTE:

      The 2C hydraulic clutch circuit contains a small bleed orifice and a small amount of air leakage is normal.

      Was there excessive air leakage noticed during the air check?

      Yes 

      NOTE:

      This transmission is equipped with a solenoid for the Torque Converter Clutch (TCC) that is a Variable Force Solenoid (VFS) with close tolerance Pressure/Inductance (PI) curve. It is necessary to update the TCC solenoid PI data in the PCM when replacing the TCC solenoid, Valve Body or Transmission assembly. This is done with the scan tool using the "Program Torque Converter Solenoid PI Curve" routine. The PI data is located on a 2-D BAR code etched on the body of the TCC solenoid. The data must be entered into the scan tool in order to upload the information to the PCM.

      When replacing the TCC solenoid or Valve Body, obtain the PI data before installing the transmission oil pan. When replacing the transmission, the PI data can be obtained from a 2-D bar code on the exterior of the new transmission. Early build transmissions will have the 2-D barcode label on the right side of the transmission case. Late build transmissions will have the label attached to a machined pad at the top of the case, near the rear of the transmission. If it is suspected that the valve body or TCC VFS has been replaced without uploading the correct PI data into the PCM, the transmission oil pan must be removed to retrieve the information from the 2-D bar code on the body of the TCC solenoid.

      • Repair as necessary. Check the 2C clutch piston, piston seals and bleed orifice assembly.
      • If the Valve Body or the TCC VFS solenoid is replaced, remove the external TCC VFS bar code label from the transmission case.
      • Perform the 68RFE TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST. Refer to TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST .

      No 

      • Disassemble and inspect the Valve Body and repair as necessary. Inspect the 2C Accumulator piston and seals. Check for an extra check ball downstream from the No. 7 check ball pocket and repair as necessary. If no problems are found in the Valve Body, replace the Transmission Solenoid/TRS Assembly in accordance with the Service Information.
      • If the Valve Body or the TCC VFS solenoid is replaced, remove the external TCC VFS bar code label from the transmission case.
      • Perform the TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST. Refer to TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST .
  15. ISOLATE AND CHECK THE (T147) 2C PRESSURE SIGNAL CIRCUIT FOR A SHORT TO ANOTHER CIRCUIT AT THE PCM HARNESS CONNECTOR 
    CAUTION:

    Do not probe the PCM harness connectors. Probing the PCM harness connectors will damage the PCM terminals resulting in poor terminal to pin connection. Install the GPEC Diagnostic Adaptor to perform the diagnosis.

    1. The ignition must be off when performing a resistance check to find a short between circuits.
    2. Isolate the circuit by disconnecting the Electronic Control Unit (ECU) and every component harness connector containing the circuit being tested. At this time leave all in-line connectors connected. Note:  Use the wiring diagram as a guide to follow the path of the circuit.
    3. Connect one lead of the DVOM to the circuit being tested at the GPEC Diagnostic Adapter.
    4. With the other lead of the DVOM probe all other circuits at the GPEC Diagnostic Adapter.
    NOTE:

    With the circuit isolated there should be no continuity between the circuit being tested and any other circuit.

    Is there continuity between the circuit being tested and any other circuit?

    Yes 

    • Repair the short between the circuits that have continuity. Use the wiring diagram as a guide to trace the circuits and look for any in-line connectors to help isolate the location of the short.
    • Perform the TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST. Refer to TRANSMISSION VERIFICATION TEST .

    No 

    • Go To  16
  16. CHECK RELATED HARNESS CONNECTIONS 
    1. Disconnect all PCM harness connectors.
    2. Disconnect the (special tool #10436, Adapter, GPEC Diagnostic) and remove from the vehicle.
    3. Disconnect all related in-line harness connections (if equipped).
    4. Disconnect the related component harness connectors.
    5. Inspect harness connectors, component connectors, and all male and female terminals for the following conditions:
      • Proper connector installation.
      • Damaged connector locks.
      • Corrosion.
      • Other signs of water intrusion.
      • Weather seal damage (if equipped).
      • Bent terminals.
      • Overheating due to a poor connection (terminal may be discolored due to excessive current draw).
      • Terminals that have been pushed back into the connector cavity.
      • Perform a terminal drag test on each connector terminal to verify proper terminal tension.

      Repair any conditions that are found.

    6. Reconnect all PCM harness connectors. Be certain that all harness connectors are fully seated and the connector locks are fully engaged.
    7. Reconnect all in-line harness connectors (if equipped). Be certain that all connectors are fully seated and the connector locks are fully engaged.
    8. Reconnect all related component harness connectors. Be certain that all connectors are fully seated and the connector locks are fully engaged.
    9. With the scan tool, erase DTCs.
    10. Using the recorded Event and Environmental Data, along with the When Monitored and Set Conditions above, operate the vehicle in the conditions that set the DTC.
    11. With the scan tool, read PCM DTCs.

      Did the DTC return?

      Yes 

      NOTE:

      This transmission is equipped with a solenoid for the Torque Converter Clutch (TCC) that is a Variable Force Solenoid (VFS) with close tolerance Pressure/Inductance (PI) curve. If replacing the PCM, it is necessary to transfer the PI data from the old PCM to the new PCM using the scan tool. If the PCM being replaced is non-responsive, the PI data can be retrieved from a 2-D bar code on the exterior of the transmission case. This is done with the scan tool using the "Program Torque Converter Solenoid PI Curve" routine.

      Early build transmissions will have the 2-D barcode label on the right side of the transmission case. Late build transmissions will have the label attached to a machined pad at the top of the case, near the rear of the transmission. The data must be entered into the scan tool in order to upload the information to the PCM. In the event that the exterior BAR code is missing, or it is suspected that the valve body or TCC solenoid has been replaced without uploading the correct PI data into an existing PCM, the transmission oil pan must be removed to retrieve the information from the 2-D bar code on the body of the TCC solenoid.

      No