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Diagnostic Test

  1. ACTIVE DTC 
    NOTE: Inspect the vehicle for aftermarket accessories that may exceed the Generator System output.
    1. Ignition on, engine not running.
      NOTE: The battery must be fully charged.
      NOTE: The Generator belt tension and condition must be checked before continuing.
    2. With a scan tool, read the DTCs.
    3. With a scan tool, erase the DTCs.
    4. Start the engine.
    5. Allow the idle to stabilize.
    6. With the scan tool, read the DTCs.

      Is the DTC active at this time?

      Yes 

      • Go to step  2

      No 

  2. FUSED B+ CIRCUIT HIGH RESISTANCE 
    NOTE: Inspect the Generator harness connector and the Generator Eyelet for corrosion or damage before continuing.
    WARNING: When the engine is operating, do not stand in direct line with the fan. Do not put your hands near the pulleys, belts or fan. Do not wear loose clothing. Failure to follow these instructions may result in possible serious or fatal injury.
    1. Ignition on, engine not running.
      NOTE: Make sure all wires are clear of the engines moving parts.
    2. Measure the voltage between the Generator B+ Output Terminal and the Battery+ Post.
    3. Start the engine.

      Is the voltage above 0.1 of a volt?

      Yes 

      No 

      • Go to step  3
  3. EXCESSIVE RESISTANCE IN THE CASE GROUND 
    WARNING: When the engine is operating, do not stand in direct line with the fan. Do not put your hands near the pulleys, belts or fan. Do not wear loose clothing. Failure to follow these instructions may result in possible serious or fatal injury.
    1. Start the engine.
    2. Warm the engine to operating temperature.
      NOTE: Make sure all wires are clear of the engines moving parts.
    3. Measure the voltage between the Generator Case and Battery ground post.

      Is the voltage above 0.1 of a volt?

      Yes 

      No 

      • Go to step  4
  4. (A803/A804) GEN SENSE CIRCUIT OPEN 
    Fig 1: Checking Generator Sense Circuit
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    1. Turn the ignition off.
    2. Disconnect the PCM harness connector.
      CAUTION: Do not probe the PCM harness connectors. Probing the PCM harness connectors will damage the PCM terminals resulting in poor terminal to pin connection. Install PCM Pinout Box 8815 to perform diagnosis.
    3. Measure the voltage of the (A803/A804) Gen Sense circuit in the appropriate terminal of the PCM Pinout Box 8815.

      Is the voltage equal to Battery voltage?

      Yes 

      • Go to step  5

      No 

  5. GENERATOR OPERATION 
    Fig 2: Checking Generator Field Control Circuit
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    1. Turn the ignition off.
    2. Disconnect the Generator Field harness connector.
    3. Using a 12-volt test light connected to ground, probe the Gen Field Control circuit in the Generator Field harness connector.
    4. Ignition on, engine not running.
    5. With a scan tool, actuate the Alternator Field Duty Cycle.

      Does the test light illuminate brightly and flash on and off?

      Yes 

      No 

      • Go to step  6
  6. (K20) GEN FIELD CONTROL CIRCUIT SHORTED TO BATTERY VOLTAGE 
    Fig 3: Checking Generator Field Control Circuit
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    1. Turn the ignition off.
    2. Disconnect the PCM harness connectors.
    3. Ignition on, engine not running.
    4. Measure the voltage on the (K20) Gen Field Control circuit in the Generator Field harness connector.

      Is the voltage above 1.0 volt?

      Yes 

      No 

      • Go to step  7
  7. (K20) FIELD CONTROL CIRCUIT OPEN 
    Fig 4: Checking Generator Field Control Circuit
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    1. Turn the ignition off.
      CAUTION: Do not probe the PCM harness connectors. Probing the PCM harness connectors will damage the PCM terminals resulting in poor terminal to pin connection. Install PCM Pinout Box 8815 to perform diagnosis.
    2. Measure the resistance of the (K20) Gen Field Control circuit from the Generator Field harness connector to the appropriate terminal of the PCM Pinout Box 8815.

      Is the resistance below 5.0 Ohms?

      Yes 

      • Go to step  8

      No 

  8. (K20) GEN FIELD CONTROL CIRCUIT SHORTED TO GROUND 
    Fig 5: Checking Generator Field Control Circuit
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    1. Measure the resistance between ground and the (K20) Gen Field Control circuit in the Generator Field harness connector.

      Is the resistance below 100 Ohms?

      Yes 

      No 

      • Go to step  9
  9. POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE (PCM) 
    NOTE: Before continuing, check the PCM harness connector terminals for corrosion, damage or terminal push out. Repair as necessary.
    1. Using the schematics as a guide, inspect the wire harness and connectors. Pay particular attention to all Power and Ground circuits.

      Were there any problems found?

      Yes 

      No