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Diagnostic Test

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  1. VERIFY THAT THE DTC IS ACTIVE 
    WARNING: WHEN THE ENGINE IS OPERATING, DO NOT STAND IN A DIRECT LINE WITH THE FAN. DO NOT PUT YOUR HANDS NEAR THE PULLEYS, BELTS OR FAN. DO NOT WEAR LOOSE CLOTHING.
    NOTE: If the TIPM detects and stores a DTC, the TIPM also stores the environmental conditions under which the DTC was set.
    NOTE: Before erasing stored DTCs, record these conditions. Attempting to duplicate these conditions may assist when checking for an active DTC.

    Turn the ignition on.

    With the scan tool, erase TIPM DTCs.

    With the scan tool, actuate the PTC No. 2 Relay.

    Monitor the scan tool for at least two minutes.

    With the scan tool, read TIPM DTCs.

    Is the status Active for this DTC? 

    Yes 

    1. Go To  2.

    No 

    1. Check for an intermittent condition by inspecting the related wiring harness for chaffed, pierced, pinched, and partially broken wires. Also, inspect the related connectors for broken, bent, pushed out, spread, corroded, or contaminated terminals.
  2. CHECK (K342) FUSED ASD RELAY OUTPUT CIRCUIT FOR AN OPEN OR HIGH RESISTANCE 
    Fig 1: Checking Fused ASD Relay Output Circuit For An Open Or High Resistance
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    Turn the ignition off.

    Remove the PTC No. 2 Relay.

    Turn the ignition on.

    Using a 12 volt test light connected to ground, check the (K342) Fused ASD Relay Output circuit in the PTC No. 2 Relay harness connector.

    NOTE: The test light should illuminate brightly. Compare the brightness to that of a direct connection to the battery.

    Does the test light illuminate brightly? 

    Yes 

    1. Go To  3.

    No 

    1. Repair the (K342) Fused ASD Relay Output circuit for an open or high resistance.
    2. Perform BODY VERIFICATION TEST - VER 1 .
  3. CHECK (K361) PTC NO. 2 RELAY CONTROL CIRCUIT FOR A SHORT TO GROUND 
    Fig 2: Checking PTC No. 2 Relay Control Circuit For A Short To Ground
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    Turn the ignition off.

    Disconnect the TIPM harness connectors.

    Measure the resistance between ground and the (K361) PTC No. 2 Relay Control circuit in the PTC No. 2 Relay connector.

    Is the resistance above 10.0 ohms? 

    Yes 

    1. Go To  4.

    No 

    1. Repair the (K361) PTC No. 2 Relay Control circuit for a short to ground.
    2. Perform BODY VERIFICATION TEST - VER 1 .
  4. CHECK (K361) PTC NO. 2 RELAY CONTROL CIRCUIT FOR AN OPEN OR HIGH RESISTANCE 

    Measure the resistance of the (K361) PTC No. 2 Relay Control circuit between the PTC No. 2 Relay connector and the TIPM harness connectors.

    Is the resistance below 10.0 ohms? 

    Yes 

    1. Go To  5.

    No 

    1. Repair the (K361) PTC No. 2 Relay Control circuit for an open or high resistance.
    2. Perform BODY VERIFICATION TEST - VER 1 .
  5. CHECK PTC NO. 2 RELAY 
    Fig 3: Checking PTC No. 2 Relay
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    Install the TIPM harness connectors.

    Install a substitute PTC No. 2 Relay in place of the vehicle's PTC No. 2 Relay.

    Turn the ignition on.

    With the scan tool, erase TIPM DTCs.

    With the scan tool, actuate the PTC No. 2 Relay.

    Monitor the scan tool for at least two minutes.

    With the scan tool, read TIPM DTCs.

    Is the status Active for this DTC? 

    Yes 

    1. Go To  6.

    No 

    1. Replace the PTC No. 2 Relay in accordance with the Service Information.
    2. Perform BODY VERIFICATION TEST - VER 1 .
  6. INSPECT RELATED WIRING & CHECK FOR TSBs 

    Turn the ignition off.

    Using the wiring diagram/schematic as a guide, inspect the wiring and connectors between the PTC No. 2 Relay and the FCM.

    Look for any chafed, pierced, pinched, or partially broken wires.

    Look for broken, bent, pushed out or corroded terminals.

    Refer to any Technical Service Bulletins that may apply.

    Were any problems found? 

    Yes 

    1. Repair as necessary.
    2. Perform BODY VERIFICATION TEST - VER 1 .

    No 

    1. Replace the Totally Integrated Power Module (TIPM) in accordance with the Service Information.
    2. Perform BODY VERIFICATION TEST - VER 1 .