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Diagnostic Test

  1. CHECKING DTCS 
    NOTE:
    • Before continuing with this procedure, review the TSBs that may be related to a start and stall condition.
    • It may be helpful to review Secondary Indicators, if a two trip DTC(s) is present, drive the vehicle to try and mature the DTC to Active.
    1. Ignition on, engine not running.
    2. With a scan tool, read DTCs.

      Are any DTCs present?

      Yes 

      No 

      • Go to step  2
  2. CHECKING VEHICLE THEFT DTCS 
    NOTE: If you are unable to communicate with the Wireless Ignition Node (WIN). Refer to Non-DTC Diagnostics/Communication - Diagnosis and Testing .
    1. With the scan tool, read the WIN codes.

      Are there any WIN DTCs?

      Yes 

      No 

      • Go to step  3
  3. CAM/CRANK VERIFICATION 
    1. Using a scan tool, under OBDII Monitors, read and record the Cam Crank Synchronization Event Monitors.
    2. Using this table, determine if any of the values are present in the Cam Crank Synchronization Event Monitor display.
    CAM EVENT STATUS 
    CM1ULTRH CM1ULTLH CM1TOL1 CM1LOW CM1ULZERO CM1MFS CM1MFR
    CM1IF CM1ONLY CM2ULTRH CM2ULTLH CM2TOL1 CM2LOW CM2ULZERO
    CM2MFS CM2MFR CM2IF CM2ONLY CM3ULTRH CM3ULTLH CM3TOL1
    CM3LOW CM3ULZERO CM3MFS CM3MFR CM3IF CM3ONLY CM4ULTRH
    CM4ULTLH CM4TOL1 CM4LOW CM4ULZERO CM4MFS CM4MFR CM4IF
    CM4ONLY SYULCAM - - - - -
    CRANK EVENT STATUS 
    CKULTRH CKULTLH CKLOW CKUL60M2 CKMFS CKMFR CK1IF
    CKULGTRH CKULGTLH CKULGTVR CKULGTVL CKUL220 CKUL40 SYULCRK
    SYNOCLCK - - - - - -
    SYNC EVENT STATUS 
    SYULTOL SYTOLF - - - - -
  4. SPARK PLUG(S) 
    NOTE: Inspect the ignition coil for damage, carbon tracking on the coil or a damaged spark plug insulator boot. If a problem is found, replace the ignition coil.
    1. Turn the ignition off.
    2. Remove the spark plug.
    3. Inspect the spark plug for any of the following conditions:
      • Cracks or damage
      • Carbon tracking
      • Foreign material
      • Gap not within specification
      • Loose or broken electrode
      NOTE: Lightly tap the bottom of the spark plug on a solid surface. The electrode in the spark plug should not move.

      Were any problems found?

      Yes 

      No 

      • Go to step  5
  5. POSSIBLE CAUSES OF START AND STALL CONDITION 

    The following items should be checked as a possible cause for a start and stall condition:

    • Perform any Technical Service Bulletins (TSBs) that may apply to the symptom.
    • The exhaust system must be free of any restrictions.
    • The engine compression must be within specifications.
    • The engine valve timing must be within specifications.
    • The engine must be free from vacuum leaks.
    • The throttle body must be free of carbon buildup and dirt.
    • Cracked spark plugs, carbon track on spark plugs, coil and coil boot.

    Do any of the above conditions exist?

    Yes 

    No 

    • Go to step  6
  6. FUEL PUMP DELIVERY 
    1. Verify that the Fuel tank is not empty before continuing.
    2. Follow the diagnostics for Checking Fuel Delivery in this information. See Non-DTC Diagnostics/Drivability - Gas - Diagnosis and Testing .

      Was the No Start condition solved after following the above diagnostic test?

      Yes 

      • Test Complete.

      No 

  7. 5-VOLT SUPPLY CIRCUIT VOLTAGE (CMP) 
    1. Turn the ignition off.
    2. Disconnect the Camshaft Position Sensor connector.
    3. Turn the ignition on.
    4. Measure the voltage of between the Sensor Ground circuit and the 5-volt Supply circuit in the Camshaft Position Sensor harness connector.

      Is the voltage 5.0 volts?

      Yes 

      • Go to step  8

      No 

  8. SENSOR GROUND CIRCUIT TEST 
    1. Turn the ignition off.
    2. Using a 12-volt test light connected to 12 volts, probe the Sensor Ground circuit in the Camshaft Position Sensor harness connector.
      NOTE: The test light should be illuminated and bright. Compare the brightness to that of a direct connection to the battery.

      Is the test light illuminated and bright?

      Yes 

      • Go to step  9

      No 

  9. CMP SIGNAL 
    1. Turn the ignition on.
    2. Measure the voltage of the CMP Signal circuit in the Camshaft Position Sensor harness connector.

      Is the voltage between 4.7 and 5.0 volts?

      Yes 

      • Go to step  13

      No 

      • Go to step  10
  10. CMP SIGNAL CIRCUIT SHORTED TO VOLTAGE 
    1. Turn the ignition off.
    2. Disconnect the C2 Powertrain Control Module harness connector.
    3. Turn the ignition on.
    4. Measure the voltage of the CMP Signal circuit in the Camshaft Position Sensor harness connector.

      Is there any voltage present?

      Yes 

      No 

      • Go to step  11
  11. CMP SIGNAL CIRCUIT SHORTED TO GROUND 
    1. Turn the ignition off.
    2. Measure the resistance between ground and the CMP Signal circuit in the Camshaft Position Sensor harness connector.

      Is the resistance above 100 Ohms?

      Yes 

      • Go to step  12

      No 

  12. CMP SIGNAL CIRCUIT OPEN OR HIGH RESISTANCE 
    CAUTION: Do not probe the PCM harness connectors. Probing the PCM harness connectors will damage the PCM terminals, resulting in poor terminal to pin connection. Install the PCM Pinout Box 8815 to perform diagnosis.
    1. Measure the resistance of the CMP Signal circuit between the Camshaft Position Sensor harness connector and the appropriate terminal of PCM Pinout Box 8815.

      Is the resistance below 5.0 Ohms?

      Yes 

      • Go to step  24

      No 

  13. CAMSHAFT POSITION SENSOR SIGNAL 
    Fig 1: Cam/Crank Position Sensors Signals - Wave Forms
    GC0094816Courtesy of CHRYSLER LLC
    1. Turn the ignition off.
    2. The above illustration is a depiction of typical scope patterns of the Cam (1) and Crank (2) sensors for 4, 6, and 8 cylinder engines. The square wave patterns are uniform and are identical to one another. The patterns must be evenly spread apart and at the same height. The larger gap pattern (signature) after the shorter wave forms are used for cylinder identification (Crank signal) and the distance between the series of slots (trigger) on the camshaft pulley (cam signal). Any variation of the pattern will indicate an issue with the sensor, wiring, or trigger (target) wheel. 
      Fig 2: Description Of Good & Bad Cam/Crank Signal Wave Forms
      GC0094817Courtesy of CHRYSLER LLC
      CAUTION: Do not probe the PCM harness connectors. Probing the PCM harness connectors will damage the PCM terminals resulting in poor terminal to pin connection. Install the PCM Pinout Box 8815 along with the Adapter 8815-1 to perform the diagnosis.
    3. With a lab scope, probe the CMP Signal circuit in the appropriate terminal of the PCM Pinout Box 8815.
      WARNING: When the engine is operating, do not stand in direct line with the fan. Do not put your hands near the pulleys, belts, or fan. Do not wear loose clothing. Failure to follow these instructions can result in possible serious or fatal injury.
    4. Start and allow the engine to run.
    5. Observe the lab scope screen.
    6. Compare the scope pattern with the ones in Figure 2.
      1. Pattern indicates a clean (good) square wave form that is identical to what the cam and crank should be. The square wave patterns are uniformed and are identical to one another.
      2. Two pulses joined together in the same spot on target. Indicates damage to the target (trigger) on the flex plate or broke tooth, runout in the target or large air gap between the sensor and the target wheel.
      3. Wide air gap or intermittent connection.
      4. Early signature, predominately at high speed. Large air gap between the sensor and the target wheel.
      5. Missed pulse. Possible burr or light damage to target or incorrect lateral position of the crank sensor to target (trigger).
      NOTE: If any of the above (except pattern 1) is displayed on the lab scope repair as necessary.

      Was the square wave found to match any of the above except pattern 1?

      Yes 

      No 

  14. 5-VOLT SUPPLY CIRCUIT VOLTAGE (CKP) 
    1. Turn the ignition off.
    2. Disconnect the Crankshaft Position Sensor connector.
    3. Turn the ignition on.
    4. Measure the voltage of the 5-volt Supply circuit in the Crankshaft Position Sensor harness connector.

      Is the voltage 5.0 volts?

      Yes 

      • Go to step  15

      No 

  15. SENSOR GROUND CIRCUIT TEST 
    1. Turn the ignition off.
    2. Using a 12-volt test light connected to 12 volts, check the Sensor Ground circuit in the Crankshaft Position Sensor harness connector.
      NOTE: The test light should be illuminated and bright. Compare the brightness to that of a direct connection to the battery.

      Is the test light illuminated and bright?

      Yes 

      • Go to step  16

      No 

  16. CKP SIGNAL 
    1. Turn the ignition on.
    2. Measure the voltage of the CKP Signal circuit in the Crankshaft Position Sensor harness connector.

      Is the voltage between 4.7 and 5.0 volts?

      Yes 

      • Go to step  20

      No 

      • Go to step  17
  17. CKP SIGNAL CIRCUIT SHORTED TO VOLTAGE 
    1. Turn the ignition off.
    2. Disconnect the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) connector.
    3. Turn the ignition on.
    4. Measure the voltage of the CKP Signal circuit in the Crankshaft Position Sensor harness connector.

      Is there any voltage present?

      Yes 

      No 

      • Go to step  18
  18. CKP SIGNAL CIRCUIT SHORTED TO GROUND 
    1. Turn the ignition off.
    2. Measure the resistance between ground and the CKP Signal circuit in the Crankshaft Position Sensor harness connector.

      Is the resistance above 100 Ohms?

      Yes 

      • Go to step  19

      No 

  19. CKP SIGNAL CIRCUIT OPEN OR HIGH RESISTANCE 
    CAUTION: Do not probe the PCM harness connectors. Probing the PCM harness connectors will damage the PCM terminals, resulting in poor terminal to pin connection. Install the PCM Pinout Box 8815 to perform diagnosis.
    1. Measure the resistance of the CKP Signal circuit between the Camshaft Position Sensor harness connector and the appropriate terminal of PCM Pinout Box 8815.

      Is the resistance below 5.0 Ohms?

      Yes 

      • Go to step  24

      No 

  20. CRANKSHAFT POSITION SENSOR SIGNAL 
    Fig 3: Cam/Crank Position Sensors Signals - Wave Forms
    GC0094816Courtesy of CHRYSLER LLC
    1. Turn the ignition off.
    2. The above illustration is a depiction of typical scope patterns of the Cam (1) and Crank (2) sensors for 4, 6, and 8 cylinder engines. The square wave patterns are uniform and are identical to one another. The patterns must be evenly spread apart and at the same height. The larger gap pattern (signature) after the shorter wave forms are used for cylinder identification (Crank signal) and the distance between the series of slots (trigger) on the camshaft pulley (cam signal). Any variation of the pattern will indicate an issue with the sensor, wiring, and trigger (target) wheel. 
      Fig 4: Description Of Good & Bad Cam/Crank Signal Wave Forms
      GC0094817Courtesy of CHRYSLER LLC
      CAUTION: Do not probe the PCM harness connectors. Probing the PCM harness connectors will damage the PCM terminals resulting in poor terminal to pin connection. Install the PCM Pinout Box 8815 along with the Adapter 8815-1 to perform the diagnosis.
    3. With a lab scope, probe the CKP Signal circuit in the appropriate terminal of the PCM Pinout Box 8815.
      WARNING: When the engine is operating, do not stand in direct line with the fan. Do not put your hands near the pulleys, belts, or fan. Do not wear loose clothing. Failure to follow these instructions can result in possible serious or fatal injury.
    4. Start and allow the engine to run.
    5. Observe the lab scope screen.
    6. Compare the scope pattern with the ones in Fig 4.
      1. Pattern indicates a clean (good) square wave form that is identical to what the cam and crank should be. The square wave patterns are uniformed and are identical to one another.
      2. Two pulses joined together in the same spot on target. Indicates damage to the target (trigger) on the flex plate or broke tooth, runout in the target or large air gap between the sensor and the target wheel.
      3. Wide air gap or intermittent connection.
      4. Early signature, predominately at high speed. Large air gap between the sensor and the target wheel.
      5. Missed pulse. Possible burr or light damage to target or incorrect lateral position of the crank sensor to target (trigger).
      NOTE: If any of the above (except pattern 1) is displayed on the lab scope repair as necessary.

      Was the square wave found to match any of the above except pattern 1?

      Yes 

      No 

  21. VALVE TIMING 
    1. Make sure the valve timing is within specification. Refer to the appropriate diagnostic procedure.

      Was the valve timing within specification?

      Yes 

      • Go to step  22

      No 

  22. 5-VOLT SUPPLY CIRCUIT VOLTAGE (CMP/CKP) 
    NOTE: The 5-volt Supply circuit must be present at both CMP and CKP Sensors.
    1. Turn the ignition off.
    2. Disconnect the Camshaft Position Sensor connector.
    3. Turn the ignition on.
    4. Measure the voltage of the 5-volt Supply circuit in the Camshaft Position Sensor harness connector.
    5. Repeat the above test at the Crankshaft Position Sensor (Crankshaft Position Sensor harness connector measure). 

      Is the voltage 5.0 volts at each sensor?

      Yes 

      • Go to step  23

      No 

  23. SENSOR GROUND CIRCUIT 
    NOTE: The Ground circuit must be present at both CMP and CKP Sensors.
    1. Turn the ignition off.
    2. Using a 12-volt test light connected to 12 volts, probe the Sensor Ground circuit in the Camshaft Position Sensor harness connector.
    3. Repeat the above test at the Crankshaft Position Sensor (Crankshaft Position Sensor harness connector measure). 
      NOTE: The test light should be illuminated and bright. Compare the brightness to that of a direct connection to the battery.

      Is the test light illuminated and bright?

      Yes 

      No 

  24. POWERTRAIN CONTROL MODULE (PCM) 
    1. Using the wiring diagram/schematic as a guide, inspect the wiring and connectors between the Camshaft Position Sensor and the Powertrain Control Module (PCM).
    2. Look for any chafed, pierced, pinched, or partially broken wires.
    3. Look for broken, bent, pushed out or corroded terminals.
    4. Monitor the scan tool data relative to this circuit and wiggle test the wiring and connectors.
    5. Look for the data to change or for the DTC to reset during the wiggle test.
    6. Perform any Technical Service Bulletins that may apply.

      Were any problems found?

      Yes 

      No