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Front Seat, Removing And Installing, Front Seat Removing With A Faulty Seat Forward/Back Adjustment Motor Or A Faulty Control Module

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Special tools and workshop equipment required 

Test the seat forward/back adjustment motor or control module

WARNING:
  • Follow all Safety Precautions when working with pyrotechnic components. Refer to PYROTECHNIC COMPONENTS SAFETY PRECAUTIONS .
  • Before handling pyrotechnic components (for example, disconnecting the connector), the person handling it must "discharge static electricity". This can be done by touching the door striker, for example.

-- Tilt seat all the way up.

NOTE:

Check electrical and electronic components and wires before removing seat further to avoid unnecessary repair costs.

-- Perform the following tests:

-- If fuse is faulty: replace fuse. Refer to appropriate SYSTEM WIRING DIAGRAM.Wiring Diagram.

-- If voltage to connector station is low: Repair or replace the wire. Refer to appropriate SYSTEM WIRING DIAGRAM

-- For a faulty Driver Seat Forward/Back Adjustment Motor -V28- or Front Passenger Seat Forward/Back Adjustment Motor -V31- : Replace lower frame of seat pan SEAT PAN, DISASSEMBLING AND ASSEMBLING, UPPER FRAME .

-- For a faulty Memory Seat/Steering Column Adjustment Control Module - J136- or Front Passenger Memory Seat Control Module -J521- : Replace control module MEMORY SEAT/STEERING COLUMN ADJUSTMENT CONTROL MODULE, REMOVING AND INSTALLING .

Remove if the seat forward/back adjustment motor is faulty

WARNING:

Before handling pyrotechnic components (for example, disconnecting the connector), the person handling it must "discharge static electricity". This can be done by touching the door striker, for example.

-- Turn on the ignition.

-- Disconnect the battery ground cable with the ignition turned on. Refer to GROUND CABLE WITH Battery Monitoring Control Module -J367-, REMOVING AND INSTALLING .

-- Disconnect the harness connectors at the connector station. Refer to DISCONNECTING AND CONNECTING THE CONNECTOR TO THE CONNECTOR STATION .

-- Connect the Airbag Lockout Adapter VAS6281. Refer to AIRBAG ADAPTER, CONNECTING AND DISCONNECTING .

-- Remove the bolt -1-.

Fig 1: Identifying Seat Position Sensor And Bolt
GWWA69-10487Courtesy of AUDI OF AMERICA, LLC

-- Unclip the seat position sensor -2- and the wire form the lower seat frame and move it to the side.

-- Disconnect the front safety belt latch connector. Refer to FRONT SEAT BELT LATCH, REMOVING AND INSTALLING .

-- Disconnect the electrical connector on the seat forward/back adjustment motor.

Fig 2: Disconnecting Electrical Connector On Seat Forward/Back Adjustment Motor
GWWA72-10990Courtesy of AUDI OF AMERICA, LLC

-- First remove the lock nut and then remove the screw -5-.

CAUTION:

Danger of damaging the threaded the holes or the bushing in the bearing points (connecting the upper and lower frame).

A second technician is needed to be pushing on the seat via the backrest while removing the following screws.

-- Remove the screws -1, 3, 4 and 7-.

-- With a second technician, separate the upper seat frame -2- from the lower frame -6- and remove from the vehicle.

NOTE:

Seat without the cushion, cover and backrest is illustrated.

-- Make sure the bushings -1- and the bearing points (connection upper and lower frame) -2- are not damaged.

Fig 3: Be Careful Of Bushings In Bearing Locations On Seat Pan Lower Frame
GWWA72-10793Courtesy of AUDI OF AMERICA, LLC
CAUTION:
  • The bushings cannot be replaced with workshop materials.
  • If the bushings are damaged, the corresponding assembly parts must be replaced.

-- Remove the bolts for the seat rail to the bracket.

Fig 4: Removing Bolts For Seat Rail To Bracket
GWWA72-11015Courtesy of AUDI OF AMERICA, LLC

-- Remove the faulty seat forward/back adjustment motor -1- on the bracket -arrow A-.

-- Remove the screws -arrows B- and remove the seat rail cross brace -3-.

-- Remove the screws -arrows C- and seat forward/back adjustment motor bracket -2-.

-- Install the seat forward/back adjustment motor driveshaft -3- with a cordless screwdriver -4- or drill.

Fig 5: Installing Seat Forward/Back Adjustment Motor Driveshaft With A Cordless Screwdriver
GWWA72-11069Courtesy of AUDI OF AMERICA, LLC

-- Insert the input shaft into the drive spindle -arrow A- and push the upper seat rails -2- forward and/or backward -arrows B-, until the bolts for the lower seat rails -1- are accessible.

-- Remove the screws and the seat rail.

-- Repeat the process on the other side.

-- Replace the lower seat pan frame with seat forward/back adjustment motor. Refer to SEAT PAN, DISASSEMBLING AND ASSEMBLING, LOWER FRAME .

Remove with faulty memory seat forward/back adjustment and steering column control module

WARNING:
  • Follow all Safety Precautions when working with pyrotechnic components. Refer to PYROTECHNIC COMPONENTS SAFETY PRECAUTIONS .
  • Before handling pyrotechnic components (for example, disconnecting the connector), the person handling it must "discharge static electricity". This can be done by touching the door striker, for example.

-- Turn on the ignition.

-- Disconnect the battery ground cable with the ignition turned on. Refer to GROUND CABLE WITH Battery Monitoring Control Module -J367-, REMOVING AND INSTALLING .

-- Disconnect the connector on the seat forward/back adjustment motor.

-- Connect the seat forward/back adjustment motor to an external power source and move the seat forward or back until the bolts -1- (quantity: 4) are visible.

Fig 6: Identifying Front Bolt To Console
GWWA72-10706Courtesy of AUDI OF AMERICA, LLC

-- Remove the bolts.

-- Disconnect the harness connectors at the connector station. Refer to DISCONNECTING AND CONNECTING THE CONNECTOR TO THE CONNECTOR STATION .

-- Connect the Airbag Lockout Adapter VAS6281. Refer to AIRBAG ADAPTER, CONNECTING AND DISCONNECTING .

-- Lift the front seat with a second technician and remove it from the vehicle.

-- Attach the front seat to the Engine/Transmission Holder - Seat Repair Fixture VAS6136. Refer to FRONT SEAT, MOUNTING ON FIXTURE FOR SEAT REPAIR .

-- Replace the memory seat adjustment/steering column control module. Refer to MEMORY SEAT/STEERING COLUMN ADJUSTMENT CONTROL MODULE, REMOVING AND INSTALLING .

Installing

WARNING:
  • Follow all Safety Precautions when working with pyrotechnic components. Refer to PYROTECHNIC COMPONENTS SAFETY PRECAUTIONS .
  • Before handling pyrotechnic components (for example, connecting the connector), the person handling it must "discharge static electricity". This can be done by touching the door striker, for example.

Install in reverse order of removal. Note the following:

-- Remove the Airbag Lockout Adapter VAS6281 only after installing the front seat. Refer to AIRBAG ADAPTER, CONNECTING AND DISCONNECTING .

-- Connect the connectors in the connector station. Refer to DISCONNECTING AND CONNECTING THE CONNECTOR TO THE CONNECTOR STATION .

NOTE:

Make sure the connectors are installed correctly and are secure.

WARNING:

Ignition must be on when connecting battery. If pyrotechnic components (for example, airbag, belt tensioner) are not repaired correctly, they may deploy unintentionally after connecting battery. There must not be anyone inside the vehicle when connecting the battery.

CAUTION:

When working on vehicles with the ignition already switched on or that are ready to drive there is a danger of the engine starting unexpectedly and of being poisoned by gas in enclosed areas. Risk of body parts and/or clothing being clamped or pulled.

Perform the following before switching on the ignition:

  • Move the selector lever into P.
  • Activate the parking brake
  • Turn off the ignition.
  • Open the hood
  • Connect Battery Charger VAS5095A to the battery jump start terminal.
  • Turn on the ignition.

-- Connect the battery ground cable with the ignition turned on. Refer to GROUND CABLE WITH Battery Monitoring Control Module -J367-, REMOVING AND INSTALLING .

NOTE:

If the Airbag Indicator Lamp -K75- indicates a fault, check the DTC memory, erase it and check it again. Refer to Vehicle Diagnostic Tester.