DTC P16E8 (1.5 L Engine Without Auto Idle Stop System)

DTC P16E8  : PGM-FI-Shutter Grille LIN Communication Error

NOTE:  Before you troubleshoot, review the general troubleshooting information .

DTC (PGM-FI)

1. Problem verification

   -1. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode.

   -2. Clear the DTC with the HDS.

   -3. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

   -4. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode, and wait 10 seconds.

   -5. Check for Pending or Confirmed DTCs with the HDS.

   DTC Description	Confirmed DTC	Pending DTC
   P16E8 PGM-FI-Shutter Grille LIN Communication Error

   Is DTC P16E8 indicated?

   YES 

   Go to step 2.

   NO 

   Intermittent failure, the system is OK at this time. Check for poor connections or loose terminals at the shutter grille and the PCM. If the on-board snapshot of this DTC is recorded, try to reproduce the failure under the same conditions with the on-board snapshot .

2. DTC check

   -1. Check for Pending or Confirmed DTCs with the HDS.

   DTC Description	Confirmed DTC	Pending DTC
   P16E2 PGM-FI-ACG LIN Communication Error

   Is DTC P16E2 indicated?

   YES 

   Go to step 3.

   NO 

   Go to step 7.

3. Determine possible failure area (LIN (BATT SENSOR)/LIN line, others)

   -1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

   -2. Disconnect the following connectors.

   Shutter grille 4P connector

   -3. Check for continuity between test points 1 and 2.

   Test condition

   Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode

   	Shutter grille 4P connector: disconnected
   Test point 1	Shutter grille 4P connector (female terminal) No. 3:
   Test point 2	Body ground

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   Is there continuity?

   YES 

   Go to step 4.

   NO 

   Go to step 5.

4. Shorted wire check (LIN (BATT SENSOR)/LIN line)

   -1. Jump the SCS line with the HDS, and wait more than 1 minute.

   Continue to check for continuity between the shutter grille 4P connector terminal and body ground, while disconnecting these connectors, one at a time:

   • PCM connector A (50P)
   • Alternator 1P connector

   Does continuity go away when one of the above connectors is disconnected?

   YES 

   The LIN (BATT SENSOR)/LIN wire is OK. Replace the part that caused an open when it was disconnected.

   NO 

   Repair a short in the LIN (BATT SENSOR)/LIN wire between the PCM (A10), the alternator, and the shutter grille.

5. Determine possible failure area (shutter grille, others)

   -1. Reconnect the shutter grille 4P connector.

   -2. Disconnect the following connector.

   Alternator 1P connector

   -3. Check for continuity between test points 1 and 2.

   Test condition	Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
   	Alternator 1P connector: disconnected
   Test point 1	Alternator 1P connector (female terminal) No. 1:
   Test point 2	Body ground

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   Is there continuity?

   YES 

   Replace the shutter grille .

   NO 

   Go to step 6.

6. Open wire check (LIN (BATT SENSOR)/LIN line)

   -1. Jump the SCS line with the HDS, and wait more than 1 minute.

   -2. Disconnect the following connectors.

   Shutter grille 4P connector

   PCM connector A (50P)

   -3. Check for continuity between test points 1 and 2.

   Test condition	Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
   	Shutter grille 4P connector: disconnected
   	Alternator 1P connector: disconnected
   	PCM connector A (50P): disconnected
   Test point 1	Shutter grille 4P connector (female terminal) No. 3:
   Test point 2	PCM connector A (50P) No. 10

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   Is there continuity?

   YES 

   The LIN (BATT SENSOR)/LIN wire is OK. Check for any authorized service information related to the DTCs or symptoms you are troubleshooting, or substitute a known-good PCM .

   NO 

   Repair an open in the LIN (BATT SENSOR)/LIN wire between the PCM (A10) and the shutter grille.

7. Fuse check

   -1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

   -2. Check the following fuse.

   Fuse

   No. A30

   Is the fuse OK?

   YES 

   Go to step 8.

   NO 

   Repair a short in the +B SHUTTER GRILL UPR wire between the 12 volt battery sensor and the No. A30 fuse. Also replace the No. A30 fuse.

8. Open wire check (+B SHUTTER GRILL UPR line)

   -1. Disconnect the following connector.

   Shutter grille 4P connector

   -2. Measure the voltage between test points 1 and 2.

   Test condition	Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
   	Shutter grille 4P connector: disconnected
   Test point 1	Shutter grille 4P connector (female terminal) No. 2:
   Test point 2	Body ground

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   Is there battery voltage?

   YES 

   Go to step 9.

   NO 

   Repair an open in the +B SHUTTER GRILL UPR wire between the No. A30 fuse and the shutter grille.

9. Open wire check (LIN (BATT SENSOR)/LIN line)

   -1. Jump the SCS line with the HDS, and wait more than 1 minute.

   -2. Disconnect the following connector.

   PCM connector A (50P)

   -3. Check for continuity between test points 1 and 2.

   Test condition	Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
   	Shutter grille 4P connector: disconnected
   	PCM connector A (50P): disconnected
   Test point 1	Shutter grille 4P connector (female terminal) No. 3:
   Test point 2	PCM connector A (50P) No. 10

   Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

   Is there continuity?

   YES 

   The LIN (BATT SENSOR)/LIN wire is OK. Replace the shutter grille .

   NO 

   Repair an open in the LIN (BATT SENSOR)/LIN wire between the PCM (A10) and the shutter grille.