DTC P16E2 (2016 With Auto Idle Stop System)

DTC P16E2  : PGM-FI-ACG LIN Communication Error

NOTE: Before you troubleshoot, review the general troubleshooting information - Refer to: How to Troubleshoot the A/T System (2014 2015), or How to Troubleshoot the Fuel and Emissions Systems, or How to Troubleshoot the Brake Booster Pressure Monitoring System (2016 2017 2018 2019 2020), or How to Troubleshoot the Fuel and Emissions Systems(With Auto Idle Stop System) (2016) .
• Check for a loose terminal on the alternator (+B terminal). If the alternator +B terminal was loose, DTC P16E2 will be stored.

DTC (PGM-FI)

1. Problem verification

   -1. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode.

   - 2. Clear the DTC with the HDS, and wait 10 seconds.

   - 3. Check for Pending or Confirmed DTCs with the HDS.

   DTC Description	Confirmed DTC	Pending DTC	Freeze Frame
   P16E2 PGM-FI-ACG LIN Communication Error

   Is DTC P16E2 indicated?

   YES 

   The failure is duplicated. Go to step 2.

   NO 

   Intermittent failure, the system is OK at this time. Check for poor connections or loose terminals at the alternator and the PCM. If the freeze data/on-board snapshot of this DTC is recorded, try to reproduce the failure under the same conditions with the freeze data/on-board snapshot.

2. DTC check

   -1. Check for Pending or Confirmed DTCs with the HDS.

   DTC Description	Confirmed DTC	Pending DTC	Freeze Frame
   P16E5 PGM-FI-DC-DC Converter LIN Communication Error

   Is DTC P16E5 indicated?

   YES 

   Go to step 3.

   NO 

   Go to step 7.

3. Determine possible failure area (LIN line shorted, others)

   -1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

   - 2. Disconnect the following connector.

   Alternator 1P connector

   - 3. Check for continuity between test points 1 and 2.

   Test condition	Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
   	Alternator 1P connector: disconnected
   Test point 1	Alternator 1P connector No. 1
   Test point 2	Body ground

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   Is there continuity?

   YES 

   Go to step 4.

   NO 

   Go to step 5.

4. Shorted wire check (LIN/LIN(ACG) line)

   -1. Jump the SCS line with the HDS.

   - 2. Continue to check for continuity between the alternator 1P connector terminal and body ground, while disconnecting these connectors, one at a time:

   • PCM connector B (51P)
   • DC-DC converter connector A (3P)
   • Battery fan motor 3P connector

   Does continuity go away when one of the above connectors is disconnected?

   YES 

   The LIN wire is OK. Replace the part that caused an open when it was disconnected. If these parts are OK, replace the alternator .

   NO 

   Repair a short in the LIN wire between the PCM (B50), the alternator, the battery fan motor, and the DC-DC converter.

5. Determine possible failure area (alternator, others)

   -1. Reconnect the alternator 1P connector.

   - 2. Disconnect the following connector.

   DC-DC converter connector A (3P)

   - 3. Check for continuity between test points 1 and 2.

   Test condition	Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
   	DC-DC converter connector A (3P): disconnected
   Test point 1	DC-DC converter connector A (3P) No. 1
   Test point 2	Body ground

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   Is there continuity?

   YES 

   Replace the alternator .

   NO 

   Go to step 6.

6. Open wire check (LIN line)

   -1. Jump the SCS line with the HDS.

   - 2. Disconnect the following connectors.

   Alternator 1P connector

   PCM connector B (51P)

   - 3. Check for continuity between test points 1 and 2.

   Test condition	Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
   	DC-DC converter connector A (3P): disconnected
   	Alternator 1P connector: disconnected
   	PCM connector B (51P): disconnected
   Test point 1	Alternator 1P connector No. 1
   Test point 2	PCM connector B (51P) No. 50 - Refer to: PCM Connector for Inputs and Outputs (2014 2015), or PCM Connector for Inputs and Outputs (2016), or PCM Connector for Inputs and Outputs (2017 2018 2019 2020)

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   Is there continuity?

   YES 

   The LIN wire is OK. Update the PCM if it does not have the latest software, or substitute a known-good PCM - Refer to: PCM Removal and Installation (2014 2015), or PCM Removal and Installation (2016) .

   NO 

   Repair an open in the LIN wire between the PCM (B50) and the alternator.

7. Open wire check (LIN line)

   -1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

   - 2. Jump the SCS line with the HDS.

   - 3. Disconnect the following connectors.

   Alternator 1P connector

   PCM connector B (51P)

   - 4. Check for continuity between test points 1 and 2.

   Test condition	Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
   	Alternator 1P connector: disconnected
   	PCM connector B (51P): disconnected
   Test point 1	Alternator 1P connector No. 1
   Test point 2	PCM connector B (51P) No. 50 - Refer to: PCM Connector for Inputs and Outputs (2014 2015), or PCM Connector for Inputs and Outputs (2016), or PCM Connector for Inputs and Outputs (2017 2018 2019 2020)

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   Is there continuity?

   YES 

   The LIN wire is OK. Replace the alternator .

   NO 

   Repair an open in the LIN wire between the PCM (B50) and the alternator.