DTC P0617 Without Auto Idle Stop System

DTC P0617  : Starter Cut Relay Diagnosis Circuit High Voltage

DTC (PGM-FI)

1. Problem verification

   -1. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode.

   - 2. Clear the DTC with the HDS.

   - 3. Check the parameter(s) below with the HDS.

   Signal	Threshold		Current conditions
   	Values	Unit	Values	Unit
   STARTER CUT RELAY	More than 4.9	V

   Do the current condition(s) match the threshold?

   YES 

   The failure is duplicated. Go to step 2.

   NO 

   Intermittent failure, the system is OK at this time. Check for poor connections or loose terminals at the driver's under-dash fuse/relay box, starter cut relay 1, starter cut relay 2, and the PCM. If the freeze data/on-board snapshot of this DTC is recorded, try to reproduce the failure under the same conditions with the freeze data/on-board snapshot.

2. Determine possible failure area (START DIAG line, others)

   -1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

   - 2. Remove the following fuse.

   Fuse	No. D25 (7.5 A)
   Location	Driver's under-dash fuse/relay box

   - 3. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode.

   - 4. Check the parameter(s) below with the HDS.

   Signal	Threshold		Current conditions
   	Values	Unit	Values	Unit
   STARTER CUT RELAY	More than 4.9	V

   Do the current condition(s) match the threshold?

   YES 

   Go to step 4.

   NO 

   The START DIAG wire is OK. Go to step 3.

3. Relay check

   -1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

   - 2. Remove starter cut relay 1 (A) from the driver's under-dash fuse/relay box.

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   - 3. Test starter cut relay 1.

   Is the relay OK?

   YES 

   Go to step 4.

   NO 

   Replace starter cut relay 1.

4. Determine possible failure area (PCM, others)

   -1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

   - 2. Jump the SCS line with the HDS.

   - 3. Disconnect the following connector.

   PCM connector A (51P) - Refer to: How to Troubleshoot the Fuel and Emissions Systems, or How to Troubleshoot the A/T System (2014 2015), or How to Troubleshoot the Brake Booster Pressure Monitoring System (2016 2017 2018 2019 2020), or How to Troubleshoot the Fuel and Emissions Systems(With Auto Idle Stop System) (2016)

   - 4. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode.

   - 5. Measure the voltage between test points 1 and 2.

   Test condition	Vehicle ON mode
   	Starter cut relay 1: disconnected
   	PCM connector A (51P): disconnected
   Test circuit	STRLD
   Test point 1	PCM connector A (51P) No. 26 (WHT)
   Test point 2	Body ground

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   Is there about 0.1 V or less?

   YES 

   The STRLD wire is OK. Update the PCM if it does not have the latest software, or substitute a known-good PCM - Refer to: PCM Removal and Installation (2014 2015), or PCM Removal and Installation (2016) .

   NO 

   Go to step 5.

5. Shorted wire check (STRLD line to power)

   -1. Disconnect the following connector.

   Driver's under-dash fuse/relay box connector F (32P) - Refer to: Driver's Under-Dash Fuse/Relay Box Removal and Installation, or Passenger's Under-Dash Fuse/Relay Box Removal and Installation

   - 2. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode.

   - 3. Measure the voltage between test points 1 and 2.

   Test condition	Vehicle ON mode
   	Starter cut relay 1: disconnected
   	PCM connector A (51P): disconnected
   	Driver's under-dash fuse/relay box connector F (32P): disconnected
   Test circuit	STRLD
   Test point 1	PCM connector A (51P) No. 26 (WHT)
   Test point 2	Body ground

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   Is there about 0.1 V or less?

   YES 

   The STRLD wire is OK. Replace the driver's under-dash fuse/relay box - Refer to: Driver's Under-Dash Fuse/Relay Box Removal and Installation, or Passenger's Under-Dash Fuse/Relay Box Removal and Installation .

   NO 

   Repair a short to power in the STRLD wire between the driver's under-dash fuse/relay box and the PCM (A26).