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ABS indicator, brake system indicator (red), VSA indicator, and brake system indicator (amber) do not go off (2014 2015)

ABS indicator, brake system indicator (red), VSA indicator, and brake system indicator (amber) do not go off 

NOTE:  Make sure the HDS communicates with the vehicle and the VSA modulator-control unit. If it does not, go to the DLC circuit troubleshooting - Refer to:

DLC Circuit Troubleshooting (2014 2015)

  1. DTC check

    - 1. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode.

    - 2. Check for DTCs with the HDS.

    DTC Description DTC Freeze Frame
         

    Are there DTCs indicated?

    YES 

    Go to indicated DTC's troubleshooting.

    NO 

    Go to step 2.

  2. Fuse check 1

    - 1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

    - 2. Check the following fuse.

    Fuse No. D23 (7. 5 A)
    Location Driver's under-dash fuse/relay box

    Is the fuse OK?

    YES 

    The fuse is OK. Reinstall the fuse, then go to step 3.

    NO 

    Replace the fuse. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode, then to the OFF (LOCK) mode. If the fuse blows again, repair a short to ground in the No. D23 (7. 5 A) fuse circuit.

  3. Fuse check 2

    - 1. Check the following fuse.

    Fuse No. B2-7 (20 A)
    Location Main under-hood fuse box

    Is the fuse OK?

    YES 

    The fuse is OK. Reinstall the fuse, then go to step 4.

    NO 

    Replace the fuse. If the fuse blows again, repair a short to ground in the No. B2-7 (20 A) fuse circuit.

  4. Gauge control module operation check

    - 1. Do the gauge control module self-diagnostic function.

    Is the gauge control module OK?

    YES 

    Go to step 5.

    NO 

    Replace the gauge control module .

  5. Open wire check (IG1 SAFETY line)

    - 1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

    - 2. Disconnect the following connector.

    VSA modulator-control unit 38P connector

    - 3. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode.

    - 4. Measure the voltage between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition Vehicle ON mode
      VSA modulator-control unit 38P connector: disconnected
    Test circuit IG1 SAFETY
    Test point 1 VSA modulator-control unit 38P connector No. 36 (BLU)
    Test point 2 Body ground
    GHH328836Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Is there battery voltage?

    YES 

    The IG1 SAFETY wire is OK. Go to step 6.

    NO 

    Repair an open in the wire between the No. D23 (7. 5 A) fuse in the driver's under-dash fuse/relay box and the VSA modulator-control unit.

  6. Open wire check (PGND line)

    - 1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

    - 2. Check for continuity between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
      VSA modulator-control unit 38P connector: disconnected
    Test circuit PGND
    Test point 1 VSA modulator-control unit 38P connector No. 3 (BLK)
    Test point 2 Body ground
    GHH328837Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Is there continuity?

    YES 

    The PGND wire is OK. Go to step 7.

    NO 

    Repair an open in the wire between the VSA modulator-control unit and body ground (G203).

  7. Open wire check (FSR+B line)

    - 1. Measure the voltage between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
      VSA modulator-control unit 38P connector: disconnected
    Test circuit FSR+B
    Test point 1 VSA modulator-control unit 38P connector No. 4 (WHT)
    Test point 2 Body ground
    GHH328838Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Is there battery voltage?

    YES 

    The FSR+B wire is OK. Go to step 8.

    NO 

    Repair an open in the wire between the No. B2-7 (20 A) fuse in the main under-hood fuse box and the VSA modulator-control unit.

  8. Open wire check (F-CAN_L, F-CAN_H lines)

    - 1. Disconnect the following connector.

    Gauge control module connector A (32P)

    - 2. Check for continuity between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
      VSA modulator-control unit 38P connector: disconnected
      Gauge control module connector A (32P): disconnected
    Test circuit F-CAN_L
    Test point 1 VSA modulator-control unit 38P connector No. 26 (BLK)
    Test point 2 Gauge control module connector A (32P) No. 28 (BLK)
    Test circuit F-CAN_H
    Test point 1 VSA modulator-control unit 38P connector No. 38 (WHT)
    Test point 2 Gauge control module connector A (32P) No. 27 (WHT)
    GHH328839Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Is there continuity?

    YES 

    The F-CAN_L and F-CAN_H wires are OK. Go to step 9.

    NO 

    Repair an open in the wire between the gauge control module and the VSA modulator-control unit.

  9. VSA modulator-control unit check (update)

    - 1. Reconnect the following connectors.

    Gauge control module connector A (32P)
    VSA modulator-control unit 38P connector

    - 2. Update the VSA modulator-control unit if it does not have the latest software.

    - 3. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode, then to the ON mode.

    - 4. Check the ABS indicator, the brake system indicator (red), the VSA indicator, and the brake system indicator (amber) for several seconds when turning the vehicle to the ON mode.

    Do the indicators come on, then go off?

    YES 

    Troubleshooting is complete.

    NO 

    Check for loose terminals in the VSA modulator-control unit 38P connector. If the VSA modulator-control unit was updated and the symptom/indication is still present, replace the VSA modulator-control unit .