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DLC Circuit Troubleshooting (2016, Without CAN Gateway)

DLC Circuit Troubleshooting 

NOTE:

If you suspect the HDS or the HDS DLC cable may be the source of the communication problem, verify that they are working properly by connecting them to a known-good, similar vehicle and system, and checking for communication problems.

  1. HDS communication check

    -1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

    - 2. Connect the HDS to the DLC.

    NOTE:

    Make sure the HDS is properly connected to the DLC.

    - 3. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode, and turn on the HDS.

    Does the HDS identify the vehicle?

    YES 

    Go to step 2.

    NO 

    Go to step 11.

  2. Determine possible failure area (PGM-FI system, other systems)

    -1. Check for Pending or Confirmed DTCs in the PGM-FI system with the HDS.

    DTC Description Confirmed DTC Pending DTC Freeze Frame
           

    Are any Pending or Confirmed DTCs indicated?

    YES 

    Go to the indicated DTC's troubleshooting.

    NO 

    If the HDS does not communicate with the VSA system, go to step 3.

    NO 

    If the HDS does not communicate with the EPS system, go to step 4.

    NO 

    If the HDS does not communicate with the keyless access system, go to step 5.

    NO 

    If the HDS does not communicate with the DRIVING SUPPORT system, go to step 6.

    NO 

    If the HDS does not communicate with the BODY ELECTRICAL system, go to step 7.

  3. VSA system check

    -1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

    - 2. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode, and watch the VSA indicator.

    Does the VSA indicator come on and go off?

    YES 

    The VSA system is OK. Go to step 8.

    NO 

    Go to the symptom troubleshooting for ABS indicator, brake system indicator (red), VSA indicator, and brake system indicator (amber) do not go off - Refer to: VSA System Symptom Troubleshooting - ABS indicator, brake system indicator (red), VSA indicator, and brake system indicator (amber) do not go off (Without CAN Gateway) (2016), or VSA System Symptom Troubleshooting - ABS indicator, brake system indicator (red), VSA indicator, and brake system indicator (amber) do not go off (With CAN Gateway) (2016), .

  4. EPS system check

    -1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

    - 2. Start the engine, and watch the EPS indicator.

    Does the EPS indicator come on and go off?

    YES 

    The EPS system is OK. Go to step 8.

    NO 

    Go to the EPS symptom troubleshooting for EPS indicator does not go off, and no DTCs are stored - Refer to: EPS Symptom Troubleshooting - EPS indicator does not go off, and no DTCs are stored (Without CAN Gateway) (2016), or EPS Symptom Troubleshooting - EPS indicator does not go off, and no DTCs are stored (With CAN Gateway) (2016), .

  5. Keyless access system check

    -1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

    - 2. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode, and watch the keyless access indicator and the immobilizer indicator.

    Does the keyless access indicator stay on or the immobilizer indicator stay on or flash?

    YES 

    Go to the keyless access system symptom troubleshooting information - Refer to: Keyless Access System Symptom Troubleshooting Information (2016) .

    NO 

    The keyless access system is OK. Go to step 8.

  6. Driving support system check

    -1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

    - 2. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode, and watch the multi-information display.

    Does the E-pretensioner indicator stays on?

    YES 

    Go to the driving support general troubleshooting information .

    NO 

    The driving support system is OK. Go to step 8.

  7. Body electrical system check

    -1. Do the gauge self-diagnostic function.

    - 2. Check the gauge display.

    Is B-CAN------ERROR indicated?

    YES 

    Go to the indicated DTC's troubleshooting.

    NO 

    The body electrical system is OK. Go to step 8.

  8. Open wire check (K LINE line or P LINE line)

    -1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

    - 2. Disconnect the HDS from the DLC.

    - 3. Disconnect the control unit (s) on the K LINE or P LINE that does not communicate.

    K LINE 

    • VSA modulator-control unit 38P connector
    • ANC/active sound control unit 20P connector
    • EPS control unit connector A (11P)
    • Audio-navigation unit connector A (24P)
    • Keyless access/TPMS control unit connector C (20P)
    • Front passenger's weight sensor unit A (6P)
    • Driver's under-dash fuse/relay box connector G (16P)

    P LINE 

    • Keyless access/TPMS control unit connector C (20P)

    - 4. Check for continuity between DLC (16P) No. 7 (K LINE line) and these connector terminals, or DLC (16P) No. 15 (P LINE line) and these connector terminals:

    K LINE 

    Connector Terminal
    VSA modulator-control unit 38P connector No. 11
    ANC/active sound control unit 20P connector No. 14
    EPS control unit connector A (11P) No. 7
    Audio-navigation unit connector A (24P) No. 13
    Keyless access/TPMS control unit connector C (20P) No. 4
    Front passenger's weight sensor unit A (6P) No. 2
    Driver's under-dash fuse/relay box connector G (16P) No. 13

    P LINE 

    Connector Terminal
    Keyless access/TPMS control unit connector C (20P) No. 6
    GHH324703Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Is there continuity between the DLC and the terminals in the chart?

    YES 

    Go to step 9.

    NO 

    Repair an open in the wire between the DLC (K LINE wire or P LINE wire) and the appropriate connector.

  9. Determine possible failure area (short in K LINE line or P LINE line, others)

    -1. Reconnect all connectors.

    - 2. Turn the vehicle to the ON mode.

    - 3. Measure the voltage between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition Vehicle ON mode
    Test point 1 DLC (16P) No. 7 and No. 15
    Test point 2 Body ground
    GHH324704Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Is there any voltage?

    YES 

    Go to step 11.

    NO 

    Go to step 10.

  10. Shorted wire check (K LINE line, P LINE line)

    -1. Continue to measure the voltage between DLC (16P) No. 7 (K LINE line) and body ground, or DLC (16P) No. 15 (P LINE line) and body ground while disconnecting these parts, one at a time:

    NOTE:

    Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode before disconnecting the connector, and turn the vehicle to the ON mode before measuring the voltage.

    K LINE 

    • VSA modulator-control unit 38P connector
    • ANC/active sound control unit 20P connector
    • EPS control unit connector A (11P)
    • Audio-navigation unit connector A (24P)
    • Keyless access/TPMS control unit connector C (20P)
    • Front passenger's weight sensor unit A (6P)
    • Driver's under-dash fuse/relay box connector G (16P)

    P LINE 

    • Keyless access/TPMS control unit connector C (20P)

    Does continuity go away when one of the above components is disconnected?

    YES 

    Replace the part that any voltage was detected when it was disconnected.

    NO 

    Repair a short in the wire between DLC (16P) No. 7 (K LINE) and the VSA modulator-control unit, the ANC/active sound control unit, the EPS control unit, the audio-navigation unit, the keyless access/TPMS control unit, the front passenger's weight sensor unit, the driver's under-dash fuse/relay box (MICU), or DLC (16P) No. 15 (P LINE) and the keyless access/TPMS control unit.

  11. Body electrical system (B-CAN) check

    -1. Do the gauge self-diagnostic function.

    - 2. Check for gauge control module DTCs without the HDS.

    Is DTC U0029 and/or U0100 indicated?

    YES 

    Do the PCM power and ground circuit troubleshooting - Refer to: PCM Power and Ground Circuit Troubleshooting (2016) .

    NO 

    Go to step 12.

  12. Open wire check (+B BACK UP line)

    -1. Turn the vehicle to the OFF (LOCK) mode.

    - 2. Disconnect the HDS from the DLC.

    - 3. Measure the voltage between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
    Test point 1 DLC (16P) No. 16
    Test point 2 Body ground
    GHH324705Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Is there battery voltage?

    YES 

    The +B BACK UP wire is OK. Go to step 13.

    NO 

    Repair an open in the +B BACK UP wire between DLC (16P) No. 16 and the No. C16 (10 A) fuse in the under-hood fuse/relay box.

  13. Open wire check (GND line)

    -1. Measure the voltage between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
    Test point 1 DLC (16P) No. 4
    Test point 2 DLC (16P) No. 16
    GHH324706Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Is there battery voltage?

    YES 

    The GND wire is OK. Go to step 14.

    NO 

    Repair an open in the GND wire between DLC (16P) No. 4 and G501.

  14. Open wire check (F-CAN A_H line)

    -1. Disconnect the following connector.

    PCM connector A (51P)

    - 2. Check for continuity between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
      PCM connector A (51P): disconnected
    Test point 1 PCM connector A (51P) No. 9 - Refer to: PCM Connector for Inputs and Outputs (2016),
    Test point 2 DLC (16P) No. 6
    GHH324707Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Is there continuity?

    YES 

    The F-CAN A_H wire is not open. Go to step 15.

    NO 

    Repair an open in the F-CAN A_H wire between the PCM (A9) and DLC (16P) No. 6.

  15. Open wire check (F-CAN A_L line)

    -1. Check for continuity between test points 1 and 2.

    Test condition Vehicle OFF (LOCK) mode
      PCM connector A (51P): disconnected
    Test point 1 PCM connector A (51P) No. 10 - Refer to: PCM Connector for Inputs and Outputs (2016)
    Test point 2 DLC (16P) No. 14
    GHH324708Courtesy of HONDA, U.S.A., INC.

    Is there continuity?

    YES 

    The F-CAN A_L wire is not open. Update the PCM if it does not have the latest software, or substitute a known-good PCM - Refer to: PCM Removal and Installation (2016) , then recheck. If the HDS identifies the vehicle and the PCM was updated, troubleshooting is complete. If the HDS identifies the vehicle and the PCM was substituted, replace the original PCM - Refer to: PCM Removal and Installation (2016), .

    NO 

    Repair an open in the F-CAN A_L wire between the PCM (A10) and DLC (16P) No. 14.